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Time Portals for Future Beings
Interview with Duncan Cameron and Preston Nichols

Interview with Al Bielek 1991

Interview with Al Bielek 1997,part 1 Interview with Al Bielek 1997,part 2 The Montauk Project and the Philadelphia Experiment
Dave Wilcock about Montauk Preston Nichols Fringe Knowledge For Beginners
Montauk Time-Line Engineers

Spencer Tunic took pictures of naked people on Long Island, Montauk, New York, USA

Spencer Tunic took pictures of naked people on Long Island, Montauk, New York, USA

Spencer Tunic took pictures of naked people on Long Island, Montauk, New York, USA

Spencer Tunic took pictures of naked people on Long Island, Montauk, New York, USA

Spencer Tunic took pictures of naked people on Long Island, Montauk, New York, USA

Naked Models Pose For Spencer Tunick In Montauk

http://guestofaguest.com/hamptons/naked-models-pose-for-spencer-tunick-in-montauk/

Nudist photographer, Spencer Tunick took over Montauk this week, along with several exhibitionists that are fans of his work. Old, young, white, black, thin, obese, and even pregnant posed (in a position dubbed "The Crab") along the shores of Montauk, with the sounds of the waves breaking besides them The photos speak for themselves.


TIME PORTALS FOR FUTURE BEINGS


“THE CONVOLUTED UNIVERSE BOOK 2" by Dolores Cannon
CHAPTER 21 “TIME PORTALS FOR FUTURE BEINGS (TIME TRAVELERS)”, p.421


PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT

This idea of time portals to the past and the future reminded me of the mysterious case of the Philadelphia Experiment supposedly performed by our government during World War II. They have continually denied it, yet the story has persisted that they made a ship with its crew disappear, and reappear elsewhere. One of the reasons I suspect they have denied it (although it was a secret project) was that it had disastrous results. Some of the crew members disappeared upon reentry, and others were trapped half in and out of the metal of the ship. I thought I would see if he had anything to say about that. Whether he could verify or deny it. He seemed to be the ideal person to ask.

S: this was done with one of these time portals, and the same vortex that was used in this experiment is still open. That’s why they are able to use it for time travel. The aliens gave them the technology to do the Philadelphia Experiment.
D: But it didn’t work, did it?
S: Actually it did. But they didn’t know how to control it, so that’s why they had to stop doing it. They hadn’t planned on two vortexes connecting. They thought the ship would go through one vortex and come back right where they started. The two actually connected and it came out in a different vortex.
D: I’ve heard that the people onboard the ship were affected physically and mentally. Why did that happen?
S: Because when the hyperspace jump happened, they went somewhere else in a different dimension. And they lost form and body when they did this. They disappeared. So that when the jump was made back, unfortunately some of them got stuck when the forms came back.
D: Did the physical ship remain solid or did it also break apart?
S: The physical ship also broke apart molecularly.
D: So all of it was breaking apart as it went through the vortex. Especially when it connected with the other vortex. And then when it was brought back, it didn’t all come back the way it should?
S: Well, actually it did. It’s just that when it came back, all of it came back together. So people who were shifted from this one point got caught in matter. There was a shift, and they didn’t know how to keep the shift at the point where the person left when they did this.

In other words they didn’t know how to bring the person back to the exact point he started out. It shifted enough, that the person was caught in the physical material of the ship.

D: You mean the vibrational rate of the shift?
S: And the re-transformation.
D: It was not at the same rate?
S: It was the same rate. It was not the same point in time. It wasn’t at the same spot that they left when it happened. This is crucial.
D: So the matter intermingled. Would that be a way to say it? (Yes) They also said some of the people disappeared.
S: They didn’t re-transform. They were lost in space, and did not survive.
D: Was this one of the first experiments?
S: No, there were more than one. That was the first one they did with people. They did it with objects first, animals and objects.
D: Did they keep experimenting after the Philadelphia Experiment?
S: Actually, no. After that one attempt they did not, because they didn’t know how to control the people thing. But they still kept experimenting with the time tunnel. The vortexes. They didn’t try again with objects and people together. They were given more technology, so they were able to send people directly through the tunnel. They didn’t send them in anything.
D: So they bypassed that problem of mixing the matter together.
S: Yes. Although when they do this, they have to make sure to bring the person back exactly the same place at - I think - two minutes ahead, so they can re-transform. They have gotten pretty good at this."


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Interview with Duncan Cameron and Preston Nichols

                                                             (some info about travelling to Mars)

FROM: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_montauk_13.htm


DC = Duncan Cameron
PN = Preston Nichols
SS = Sovereign Scribe (The Sovereign Scribe of McKenna, Washington)

SS: Regarding the Montauk experiments, you said the tunnel was large enough to drive a truck through; where did they drive the truck?
DC: Where did they drive the truck? Well it’s a figure of speech that you can drive a truck through. There are all sorts of associated phenomena that pass through whether it be information or people or such.

PN: But first of all, get the truck underground.

DC: ... Something that wasn’t ground level. It was underground. It was underground. All the time-space stuff was underground.

PN: It was at the summit with the Delta T structure.

SS: How far down was it?

PN: 1/4 of a mile, maybe somewhere between a thousand feet and 1/4 of a mile. It was way underground. This is according to our recollection. We have no proof of it of course.

SS: Could there be a reason for it being underground?

PN: The reason was essentially they built, see the Montauk time and space portal was essentially an artifact that came out of what we call a Delta T antenna. You have a picture of a big thing made out of wood with wires shaped like this. That’s what we call the Delta-T antenna. The portal actually appears in the center of that. If you pump this thing right. They had trouble building this above ground because when they started to test above ground the fields from the transmitting equipment were so strong that they had to locate it low enough below ground that there would be a neutral point between the fields of the equipment and the building above ground and the fields from the antenna way below ground because at that neutral point sat the chair that he [Duncan] sat in.

So I have to point out also that they did not want any of the raw pulse. See this antenna took the raw pulse from the pulse modulators of the radar transmitter and essentially put it into Del Cross F Cross E Cross B Cross G function. Which means they were essentially generating gravitational waves that would enfold into space-time waves in itself. And you could make a time-space portal; only one end of it was controllable, such, in ’83 you could make an extension of it anywhere in the past, present or future you wished. If I took this antenna here and added in pulses from a pulse modulator in a radar transmitter it would probably wipe out every TV set within about 50 miles of it. But they had to keep this thing far enough under ground so that the EMR electromagnetic interference would not be radiated. Also they wanted to make it big enough, I think it was 250 feet, this one was 10 foot. I think the one we had at Montauk was 250 feet to 300 feet - something like that. This one, the actual portal might be that big (a few inches) but if you’ve got one that’s 10 times the size and is like that you could literally have a portal... I believe the portal size was 10 to 20 feet that they were actually able to create. I could make a portal maybe 2 inches here cause the antenna’s small.

Of course above ground there would have been certain construction problems. With making the thing below ground where they have the undergrounders making holes in the floor and pass the pipe and the wires through the floor and the thing up and you don’t have to worry the wind’s going to blow it down and this sort of thing. There’s a number of reasons that it was underground.

SS: And also you said it would be harder to detect?

PN: Yeah, who’s going to see it from the air?

SS: Wouldn’t they’d pick it up?

PN: Also the Hertizan leakage would be way down if it’s underground. It wouldn’t wipe out TV in Montauk. Montauk is so far out they have huge power and rotary beams that they can look at Boston or they can look at Rhode Island or Connecticut or New York with. And the signal strength at Montauk is very weak so it lakes nothing to interfere with the TV in Montauk. They don’t want to get the town up in arms.

SS: Did they use that to build the legendary city on Mars?

PN: This is the information we have. We have not been able to back it up. It is only memories of Mr. Cameron and Mr. Bielek. I was not involved with that part of it myself. It wasn’t that they built the big city. They found an ancient earlier civilization that was abandoned. They first got to Mars and realized that yes, there had been a civilization there at one time and the above ground of it was crumbled back into dust. But they did detect huge underground installations which were still making magnetic fields and this sort of thing that they could detect and they realized that there was still machinery running underground and of course they first went all around Mars and they couldn’t figure out how to get down underground without bringing boring equipment and cutting a tunnel right down in. When Montauk had the working capability it would be nothing to target the other end of the vortex from ’83 through to whatever time they wanted to inside Mars itself and this is what they did. And Duncan himself can talk of stuff he saw on Mars.

SS: What did you see?

DC: Something that has recently come up -- both Preston and myself were in a private meeting in Long Island with a man who was known in the UFO field. He spoke; he was giving some pictures regarding UFO’s. He came up with some photographs having to do with the moon Phobos. I reacted to that strongly. When I recall physically, there is a physical reaction and I’m startled. After spending a little bit of time with that -- investigating it, it now seems from my own investigating and outside reading per se. When I say I am reading, I am basically sensitive to electro-magnetics and can access information zones whether they be on a local scale, the Akashic which is in domain systems or out of domain, higher evolved and such.

Information that I got from the outside information zone is that there is a system which still is on Mars. It originally was an electronic crystal type system which was part of the defense structure for the solar system that has been turned off. Defense meaning to keep for ones self. In that sense we all have energy fields about us and there is a defense posture to keep outside influences away. If you think on a planetary scale in a solar system, if such defenses were set down, if that were one of the stations per se, to keep out nasties or to keep the intelligence within the solar system alive and dynamically moving, if that were to be shut off there would be all sorts of obtrusions that would not ordinarily come through.

Whether that was one of the directives involved in the Mars project or if that was one of their aims as such or by products, the defense system on Mars is down and there are all sorts of associated troubles and disturbances because of that. It’s a linked system that we haven’t quite figured out the other aspects of. I could go on, it’s just a quick brief thing. Both myself and Al, according to recall, have been there mostly on a directed mission, per se. Sort of like a ’seeing eye’. Part of my duties at Montauk were to basically to be in sort of a trance-type system and have something pass through me which would be -- how do I say -- for information’s sake going places or something. It was one directive system so I can only tell you on very linear function what happened. Basically I was there just to see about. Basically it would be 300 or 400 feet underground plus the cavern type systems. There are all sorts of symbolical references there. Tonal frequencies. It wasn’t necessarily a generator per se, but all sorts of frequencies that were very much alive - almost as though some kind of intelligence, per se. It was part of my duty to go and investigate and see what occurred. So that was more or less the two things that I saw.

SS: Did you see traveling back in time, did you see a civilization on Mars?

DC: No, not I. Not myself. Possibly with Al. I only had 5 or 6 specific missions that I was involved in, as part of my recall. Having to do with Al I don’t know. Until recently I have been denying any associations having to do with the Philadelphia Experiment or Montauk or associated problems because of a denial system within myself so now I am moving ahead and trying to learn and reeducate myself so I am looking out for more information even as we speak.

SS: Did the face on Mars have a function beyond decoration?

DC: That’s a good question. I’ve never looked at that. In that sense I could only be speculating.
Montauk was responsible for conditioning and influencing the consciousness of the earth. That was one of the priorities, possibly, tools to work with to condition and control people.

PN: The information source from what I remember your reading said that it was essentially a defense for our whole solar system. The Mars system would be protecting us well. That’s the first thing they would do was to shut that off so they could get in.

DC: That would make sense.

SS: So if they had it on before Montauk then Montauk went up and shut it off...

PN: Somebody went from Montauk through the portal that was from space point A to space point B probably in real time. The first thing they would do was shut that switch off. They had to somehow sneak into the defenses and turn the switch off. Maybe they had the key to shut it off. I don’t know. I wasn’t part of that project. I was the guy that did the electronics on the project. I was not involved with who went where. I don’t believe I went anywhere particular place in time.

SS: Do you know who is using that kind of equipment now?

PN: Undoubtedly the secret government still has some more equipment. I can’t believe that they’re leaving it alone. I don’t think the monster in ’83 scared them off completely. They slowed it down some but I’m sure it’s back on line running full force right now somewhere.

SS: Is there any way to detect that?

PN: I pick up signals from similar projects all the time. But signals that Montauk sent out sounded very much like the Buzzsaw that was sawing the microphone in half that you talk about in your magazine in your first article (Vol. 1 #131). The Montauk function sounds very similar, in fact it’s been speculated that they’re playing Montauk tapes in these other transmitters and that’s what we hear as the Buzzsaw. Because the function is the same. It’s the same kind of function. It’s just a different emulation of the system. Montauk ran at 450 to 470 megahertz. What we’re talking of today is 3 to 30 megahertz. But the modulations are the same as far as I can see.

SS: And that includes the tunneling effect?

PN: No, I’m talking about the mind control aspect of Montauk.

SS: How about the tunneling?

PN: Tunneling -- that would work the same because it is all thought forms. But you would have to go in to an actual time warping function such as the Delta T antenna.

DC: We somehow by chance or design ran into some girl in Long Island who I had some association with. She was troubled for a number of reasons and I followed her information basis back on a psychic read type system. and it seems like she was hooked up to something called ’Freedom Riders’. She had some degree of clairvoyance.

How the thing works: when the DOR sensor is connected it sends out a reverse of the DOR patternings and since you have an exact reverse oscillation being built by the transmitter, it cancels the real DOR oscillation. It cancels it right out. Then they transmit the orgone function in phase so it replaces the DOR function with the orgone function that’s picked up by the orgone sensor. That is simply in a nutshell how this thing works.

In the ’40’s, ’50’s, and ’60’s, they sent up thousands of these things. There were 200 to 300 of these in the air each day. Now the interesting point to notice here is, if we look at all these different devices, they all have a bottle shape on the bottom--that’s the transmitter. And you notice they have roughly the same shape up at the top. This says that there is something estoteric here in the upper part of the unit, which we don’t understand to this day.

Now if you look here, you’ll see this is the modulator coil as outlayed in the diagram. It’s got the same modulator coil inside this housing her.

SS: What’s the power source?

PN: In this case, it’s batteries. In the Biosonde it’s AC.

SS: How long could they stay up there?

PN: A couple of days maybe. They’ll float around until the balloon bursts and they had a parachute that slowly carried them back to earth. They can only transmit for about 3 to 4 hours. You could pressurize the balloon so that it rises to a point and breaks and comes down. Or you could pressurize it where it would float for days.

SS: Is that an actual orgone detector instrument?

PN: Well the thing is, the orgone and DOR output of these things is in the subtle energy realm. I don’t know of any receiver that can detect the actual energetic function that is coming out of here, the actual modulation. You listen to this, you only hear a group of impulses. The DOR and orgone is inside those impulses and how to detect what’s inside the impulses. I admit I don’t know how to do it. I haven’t had a chance to analyze it but I got a Radiosonde Receptor which is a receiver built to receive these things. It’s a very strange circuit. The answer may be there, how to detect what this is sending, but I don’t understand it at this point.

SS: But it’s detecting what’s there.

PN: You’re talking about the actual detector itself.

SS: Yes. It [orgone] exists. The government hasn’t said that it exists.

PN: No, they haven’t. In Radiosonde circles this flat plate with the black stuff on it, they call a humidity detector. This is what detects the orgone. This little white rod here, this is a temperature sensing resistor, it detects the DOR. But also, this will detect humidity changes. The problem with this is as you dampen the thing, dry it, dampen ii, it goes out of calibration. After about 10 minutes of flight these things are useless. These things will hold their calibration for maybe weeks at a time.

But still it was lucky that they sent this up so someone picked up one of these things came down on the ground. They would see the white thermistor between these two thing-a-ma-bobs here and this plate down here. Now the plates sits between these two clips and these aluminum covers go over it. If you follow Reichian technology, aluminum lends to have a focuser for orgone. So they have the orgone sensor here with the aluminum plate over it, the aluminum plate will help pull the orgone to the orgone sensor. Copper focuses DOR. This is why Reich made the original orgone boxes out of steel or aluminum foil, but not copper.

Now this device here is a transmitter. After Duncan did his readings on these things, I realized what I had was a radionics transmitter. Whatever I put in would be sent out. Any of you people sensitive? All you do is take this and hold it. You’ll feel your energies build up in it. It might get warm or it might get cool to you. That’s essentially a resonator of hyperspacial energies, the psychic energy. And that design can be traced right to Wilhelm Reich through Brookhaven National Laboratories.

See, after Reich developed this package, he called up the government and told them that he had a device that could knock the violence out of thunderstorms and asked if they were interested. The government said, "Yes. We’re interested!" They requested Mr. Reich to mail a prototype to Brookhaven on Long Island.

So they waited for a thunderstorm to approach and they sent it up into the clouds. As it approached, the thunderhead broke up and went around Brookhaven. At Brookhaven there was a nice gentle sunlit shower while the area around was having a thunderstorm. So of course they were very interested. They worked with Mr. Reich to replicate the thing.

Now this transmitter, the silver box here, is a nice packaged AC device. We had to have a device that would sense; that’s the input well. The first mode we played with was we took the orgone sensor from the Radiosonde and just plugged it directly into the transmitter. And now you can transduce your orgone. You hold this [sensor], you plug it in and turn it on. It’s like sitting in an orgone box. This is picking up your orgone and building it up. We wanted to have a fancy witness coil so Mr. Cameron turned on his psychic sense, talked to someone in one of the higher domains, and he said we wanted to build a witness well. [A "witness" is anything that would carry the vibrations of the thing or place you want to sense or contact, such as, clothing or a possession would be witness to a person.] How do we go about doing it? And he channeled the whole design of this device including the well receiver, the circuit board and we made this input well. This input well turns out to be vastly superior to the input well of the Kelly box or an Hieronymus box or any of those devices.

Now what this will do for you simply: you plug the wire into the transmitter. Whatever you dump in here [input well] this array of coils and receiver will pick up the electromagnetic component just as the chair picks up Duncan’s electromagnetic component, and will transduce it to be broadcasted by the transmitter. This is essentially a miniature Montauk. Not of the power that they had. And if you put your hand in the well, turn the device on, it would start building up your energies.

How you use Radionics equipment, them are three ways. You can do a diagnosis with a radionics tuner where you get the rates, that where you put the witness in the witness well, you rub the rub plate and you tune the tuner until you get a maximum stick. (As you turn a tuner knob with one hand, you are rubbing a small ’plate’ with the other hand; when you get a feeling of stickiness on the plate the tuner is at the right setting.) All that’s telling you is whatever you’re conceptualizing in your mind scans from low to high on the dial is in resonance when you get the "stick". You get several rate number systems you’re using, you get the rates [from the position of the tuner knob], you go to the phone book of rates, took it up and see [what the diagnosis is.]

Now over on another column they’ll be reversing rates the antirates. So you set the device to those rates, you throw the switch that says ’broadcast’, and what it does it feeds the thing back so it oscillates and transmits to the person the reverse rates.

Now what is actually happening here? All the device is doing, it’s a concentration point that’s connecting you the operator to the mind of the subject. As you’re scanning through, you’re interrogating the subject’s mind as to what’s wrong with the body. Then when you do the treatment, you’re actually instructing the person’s subconscious mind what to do. As we all know, the subconscious mind is what directly controls the physical body, and if our conscious mind and subconscious mind stays in touch with each other, our subconscious mind has a foothold in the reality that can regulate the body correctly. As we get more paranoic and more upset and more bent out of shape and more crazy, the subconscious mind looses touch with the conscious mind. It means now the subconscious mind loose its foothold into reality. It doesn’t know how to direct the body anymore. That’s when we get sick. This is one of the major theories.

Now, if someone comes over and hits your leg with a sledge hammer it’s going to break your leg. That’s not caused by the subconscious mind loosing touch with reality. But disease that develop from outside influences such as germs and such, can be traced, it’s believed by this group of people, to the subconscious mind not running the immune system properly to eliminate that irritant, and you get sick.

So what they try to do is find out, be interrogating the subconscious mind, what is wrong and telling the subconscious mind how to heal the body. The device itself doesn’t heal. This is not a healing machine, this is just a broadcaster, what ever you put in the well for the primary witness, you can put any agent, thought form or whatever in the well just as you would with the radionics device. The energetic component of that stuff that you put in will tag along with the witness to the person and you can actually talk to the person’s subconscious mind through this.

How you treat people -- there are three means essentially.
The most common means is the reversing rate, which works psychically, by the people who designed the equipment. That’s why you get the large book with all the rates and reverse rates in it.
Another way is through reagents such as homeopathic remedies, herbs, etc. which work on the subconscious mind and the subtle body. If the herb or reagent is purely an energetic effect, this will transmit the energetic effect to the person without using up the reagent.
Another mode they use was designed by Malcolm Ray in Britain. He made a box with two wells -- the reagent goes in one and distilled water in the other. He had cards that had geometric patterns or messages on them. The cards would contain thought forms. And as energy flowed from one well to the other well, it would impress the thought forms on the target well. The well does nothing with the writing or the ink on the paper, but it picks up and senses the thought that you put on the paper and transmits the thought to the subconscious mind.......
SS: You mentioned in your talk about Montauk and the old universe

DC: There were a number of survivors, if my information is correct, of the old universe. If Montauk was as good and as manipulating as we believe, the concept was, those people who had a connection into an old Earth function -- we call it the old universe -- if they were coming from a system that was highly chaotic and had come into here into this framework, if those people had a connection with such a system that was basically going to the more chaotic side and if Montauk was trying to bring in a great chaotic system, and somehow the control group got wind of this, there could be and what we have information on was an attempt to try to bring in this high disruptive value. There’s all sorts of associated other rumors in regards to this. It hasn’t been factual; we don’t have a lot of information per se. But there is some evidence to support some of what appeared in Star Wars, indeed is a fairly good account of an old system that was basically failing apart and is growing more and more chaotic.

SS: Old in terms of time and space, or are we talking about a parallel universe?

PN: It seems like to me it’s a parallel universe thing. The legend base essentially that a long time ago there was a parallel universe. Probably most of mankind was in that old universe. it evolved into a totally despotic form of government that took hold and held for millenniums, which is essentially what the One World Government has here. They will be starling up a despotic form of government and through their technology base they’re able to hold the population pretty much the way the mind control here is heading. And what happened was a small rebel group that were fighting this, and the fight continued. It went on and on and on just as in Star Wars.

But somewhere along the line another group of beings entered the old universe. They came in and did something terrible. The legend has it that they were a life form, essentially ape-mind energies of sentient beings, but they would suck the life energy out of you. They came in and there was nothing they could do to stop them. At that point a small group of what was left put all of the technology that they had into breaking the dimensional barrier and broke into this universe, but sealed the hole up enough so that this other life form could not come into this universe. There have been suggestions at Montauk that they were trying to bring this other life form in. We have very little data to back that up at all. This is pure legend at this point.

SS: There’s a lot of science fiction like that.

PN: Yes. That probably is based on almost like a racial memory from a long long time ago.

SS: What were you referring to when you spoke of the Montauk chairs?

PN: There were two generations of the Montauk chair. The original generation was built in a site know as ITT World-Wide Communications / Makay [sp?] Marine in Southampton Long Island. That one looked almost like a multi-pyramid structure with three coils. With that one they were able to use a more standard receiver structure. They use the ITT Makay Radio, what they call an ISB receiver which was based on a 1950 Hamilin [sp?] short wave receiver, the same receiver I used to listen to the "Buzzsaw". They made a very special carrier synchronizer system in what we call ISB detectors which is upper and lower side band. So it means you have two outputs and one input for your receiver. What the outputs would look like would be an imaginary carrier and then an upper and lower information band. They would tune the to three of the hyperspacial window frequency channels. So you would have an upper part of the window and a lower part of the window. So they actually had six outputs from the three receivers, two for each receiver.

Now the carrier processing --they would take-- lets say you were detecting the X coil, they would take the Y and Z coil summon and then use that to modulate the X coil and do the same thing for the Y and the same thing for the Z. And the synchronizing system that they’d come up with on the suppressed carrier ISB reception was such that it was what we call a phantom-phase-lock-loop system where you don’t even need a carrier to lock. The thing locked on white noise. So that means the thing would lock itself on the Delta white noise in the window frequency.

That’s how the first chair was built. That had to be a distances away because that was subject to the incoming fields. They had to locate that far enough away so the transmitter didn’t interfere with it. It was microwave length from Southampton to Montauk.

Now they had problems with it because if the information was being sent and the reality glitch or a reality shift happened it was a glitch in the information. You’ve got to remember the Cray-Computer at Montauk was working on timing functions so the timing of the six data streams was very critical. For some reason they did not want to move the Cray-I to the Southampton installation then send the two channels of digital information on the microwave length. May be there was configurations in the Cray-I that were much more secret than the chair was at that point. The Southampton’s installation of course wasn’t as high a security installation as Montauk was.

They went with RCA for the second chair. RCA built the second chair. RCA had receivers which were already designed on the Delta T function. So it means instead of having the Delta T and the coil structure. the Delta T function was now in the receivers. So now they’re able to use standard XYZ Helmholz [sp?] coils.. Then the new chair was underground at Montauk and sat in a small room where the coils were close to the chair. In other words, let’s say Duncan was sitting in the chair. There would be coils on both sides of him, around the head and around the feet, then more coils on the top and the bottom. They were hooked to three very specialized receivers designed in the 30’s by Nikola Tesla which had Delta coil structures in the receiver stages. Then they used the same type of IF detection with the synchronized oscillation. They used the ITT Makay-phantom-lock design on the RCA receivers. In other words, RCA combined the lockup system of the ITT with their Delta T receivers, so the receiver looked almost identical in design. It had the same six channels of output, had the same upper and lower side bands.

SS: But much better design.

PN: The front end was a Delta T design. They didn’t need Delta T in the coil. Now the Helmholz coil structure can be... the coils can be phased where they’re insensitive to outside influences. So that means they’re able to operate at Montauk directly and they didn’t have the data problem of going over a 20 mile microwave length and getting timing glitches every so often that would throw the whole thought for in transmission helter skelter.

There also is believed that there is a third chair set up in Britain on the on the Thames River. We call that the Thames Chair we don’t know exactly where on the Thames River it is. That comes up in readings. The other two chain I have direct memories of ’cause I was involved in designing the RF equipment that was used with both chairs. So I did see and I do recall both coil structures and both receiver setups at this point.

SS: You said you could tell somebody who had been through Montauk by their aura?

DC: Yes I do.

SS: How? What do you see?

DC: Basically there’s a color attachment to it. It’s a yellow-green nauseous attachment, if I could use the word. That’s the only thing that comes to mind directly. It’s the fading as though someone had that aura of leprosy, so to speak. He was an outcast, that had this strange queerness about them which was as though they were, let’s say, buried underground for years alive, having that sense of strangeness or queerness about them. It’s very distinct. If you’ve been exposed to it, and had the sensitivity to see it, it’s really around them.

SS: When you say attachment, does that mean it’s just on one area?

DC: It’s within the auric structure and there’s also attachments that go outside. It’s also associated strings attached to the people, as the psychic type energy function that are in association with a person and outside. All sorts of tag-along are associated to it.

SS: And these attachments are still attached to something on the other end?

DC: Oh sure. It’s not a healthy energetic structure of the body which, if the system is working correctly, it does clean itself back to its original process. It’s an indicate of things that are askew, for sure.

SS: We’ve heard of putting magnets on your body to increase the energy. Are there ways to do this by magnetics besides by using electronic devices?

PN: Well the thing you can say about magnetic fields is that a magnetic field is the portal or window into the shell function or the anti-matter world. So a magnet definitely is a multidimensional window. Magnetic fields are pure potential energy, they’re a pure potential structure. Unless you move them, they don’t do any work. If you move them they do work. This of course is normal physics at this point.

So the body is needing the magnetic potentials that are good and vitalize you. I’ve also seen people I hat magnets have a tendency to drag down instead of build up.

SS: Someone we know experienced that. He was unknowingly sleeping beside some heavy magnets and woke up drained of energy. Perhaps the magnets were facing the wrong way, if there’s a difference.

PN: Yes, there is a difference. There’s also another kind of ray that comes off the sides of the magnet between the north and south pole. It’s almost like a ray emanating into a black hole, is the only way I can think to express it.

DC: It’s something that we’ve recently been exposed to by a fellow named Jerry in Staton Island, New York.

PN: He’s a psychic that sees magnetic fields. Those plates we put in the Biosonde yesterday were from Jerry. There is a coating of, in black point, of magnetic powders that somehow he’s witnessing to the Earth through the telluric field of the earth. And all it’s doing was transducing the orgone field of the earth into the room. That’s why you got the cool breeze going through the room. And that’s tied directly into magnetism.

SS: At the lecture you mentioned "entrainment"....

PN: The esoteric database that we subscribe to believes you can entrain 10% of a system you can entrain the other 90% of the system. Which means if you can raise the consciousness of 10% of the population; the other 90% will fall into the pattern sooner or later. They’ll fall in just on the fact that 10% are there. This can be backed up... we have what we call the museum, which is a whole stack of radio receivers. We found that if you can tune up 10% of them, the other 90% of them will fall into the pattern, no matter where they’re tuned. The level seems to be 10%. If you’re like at 8% there’s partial entrainment. 10% is full entrainment. So the plateau seems to be 10% from the viewpoint of physics. Why that is we can’t explain. It has something to do with frequency transformed and this sort of thing and we can’t express it at this point.

SS: Does the frequency make a difference?

DC: What is the prerequisite is the intent into the tuning. To have intent and follow that intent as you go along. And when you start resonating with that intent you get a vibratory pattern which is gracious to it and falls into it. Then you follow that along and get 10% then the rest fall along behind it. But it’s the intent for sure.

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 Interview with Al Bielek 1991

http://www.freezone.org/mc/e_conv06.htm

Al Bielek, noted lecturer on the famous "Philadelphia Experiment" and the time travel/mind control experiments of the "Montauk Project," recently spoke with The Scribe interview team in Yelm.

Bielek gave an update on the current use of mind control and psychic warfare, and also offered a more detailed account of his experience in the Montauk Project. Montauk, also known as the Phoenix Project, used Bielek and his brother Duncan Cameron, to explore the underground cities of Mars.

SS: Sovereign Scribe - AB: Al Bielek

SS: Regarding your experience on Mars you walked through the time tunnel, you take a step and you're on Mars: What did you see?

AB: Well I was not on the surface of Mars. We were in the underground. The story goes back to the Alternative 3 book, the TV production in England outlining the fact that we have Mars bases, one or more, Provided by a joint operation with the US. government. I do not know if the Russians are in on it - and aliens. They are on the surface bases It's a World Government operation really, that's not strictly the United States government.

After they were on the surface which was about 1969, they found that there where entrances to the underground sealed and they knew there was something down there. The rumors were that there was probably artifacts from an ancient civilization buried underground because there were a lot of remains above ground, ruined cities that have been there by NASA's estimates maybe 300,000 years, 250,000 years. But they found the entrances all blocked, all scaled off to any underground areas. So the word went back through communications (in the late 70's) to whomever back to the Montauk and Phoenix project, "Can you do anything about this for us? We can't get into the underground of Mars." They said, "Yes, I think we can. Give us some coordinates on the surface of the planet. We'll have to run astronomical computation." Which they did and plugged these all into the computer. They wanted two people to go and it happened to be Duncan and myself.

SS: Why two?

AB: To corroborate what the other one saw and also in case there was any problems in the underground. They didn't really know what was down there.

So they sent us and we went up there in the underground. [Using the Montauk Time-Space "Tunnel" device, developed as a result of the Philadelphia Experiment. (See Scribe issues 9,13 and 14.)] There was a problem with light. We had to take lighting with us at the time. Lateron, if I remember, we found some of their light sources and turned those on. We found eventually that the last remnants of the Martians, if you wish to call them that, died in the underground between 10 and 20,000 years ago by estimate, and they left everything they had of their civilization underground. We found enormous amounts of statuary which appeared to be religious.

SS: What did they look like? How big were they?

AB: Typically 6,7,8 foot tall, stone, gems embedded in them and so forth.

SS. These were of human-like people?

AB: Yes. They were quite well preserved. Then we found archives. We found a lot of scientific equipment. We found electronic equipment down there; tons and tons of stuff. And the rumor was also later that ... I didn't recall until Duncan reminded me of it about a week ago. he said, "Don't forget the 17,000 metric tons of Martian gold they took out. According to his recollection of it, it was very strange gold. It was 5 times denser than ours. It was worth an unbelievable fortune. Where it went we have no idea, but it was returned to Montauk and from there it went somewhere. There were several authorized trips. And Duncan and I got the bright idea since everything was in the computer let's take a trip or two on our own and do our own exploring. So we did. After the second one it was found out and we were stopped. That was when he got into the archives and found enormous records of the civilization which was buried down there.

SS: What did you find out?

AB: He as the one that read them. I couldn't read them.

SS. He didn't tell you?

AB: No. Well he did at the time but I can't remember any of it now. It's a very strange memory. On again, off again, and that part of it was never made clear to me as to what he really found. Right after that we were removed.

But I do remember some of the other installations we saw down there. They had very odd, large generators of some type. If you did not see it, I recommend that you go see the movie Total Recall. In fact it was seeing that movie that reminded me of the fact that I had been there. Not the colonies but the shots of the underground where they showed these large, round canisters where the director said these were probably for oxygen generation. I'm not quite sure but we think so. I looked at them and said, "They're not round. They're hexagonal." And I asked myself, "how the hell did I know that?" So that was our view of Mars from the underground. We didn't see hardly a thing of it from the surface.

SS: Did you see ice under the surface like in Total Recall?

All: Ice? No.

SS: If I remember the Movie, that's what they melted a lot of ice to create the atmosphere.

AB: It was not ice under there. There were oxygen generators and they also had some storage. There was a generating system which apparently the ancients had left. I don't really know much about it. but it was activated before they moved the surface colonies in. They also melted down the polar caps. The rumors are that they used a hydrogen bomb or two for that. I don't know if that's true. But they did melt down a lot of the polar ice so they would have some water. It's still sparse but they have it. The atmosphere is thin but they have atmosphere. And the temperature is warm enough. In the equatorial region they have no problem surviving. It runs about 50o and of course the astronomers have known this for about 50 years or more. It's quite livable in terms of temperature.

SS: The lighting that you mentioned. What was that like?

AB: Unknown form of illumination, after we found out how to turn it on. Some of the power generators are still working. After we turned on the underground lighting we had no lack of light. Otherwise we had to carry our own and portable lighting was not all that effective because we were dealing with larger underground chambers, several hundred feet across high ceiling and portable lights are not very good for a large chamber like that. Eventually we found where they had their own lighting. It was very bright.

SS: Have you any information on the face on Mars?

AB: Not that I remember in the underground. There's more than one face on Mars, by the way. They found several. But I remember the NASA announcements some years ago, about 2 years ago that they're receiving a low frequency radio transmission from Mars. It was about 50 kilohertz, if I remember correctly. Quite a low level indicating the equipment or whatever it was that was generating the RF signal, and it was coded, was quite old and probably nearly worn out, so they were amazed there was anything still coming out of it but it was enough of a signal that they could pick it up and put it through the computer and transcribe it. It was a warning. A warning message to humans not to repeat the mistakes they made.

SS: Do you have any feelings about being on Mars? What were your general impressions?

AB: We were digging in there remains of an old civilization that preceded ours and it felt very peculiar. To look at what was left at what was once a great civilization and realize that they literally died there and left everything behind and that eventually the thing shutdown. It was in the underground deliberately apparently was survival because the circle cities had long since been destroyed and they lived down there and stayed there.

From what I understand of it, a number of the Martians survived whatever the attack was on the surface eventually took off for Earth and others decided to stay behind on Mars in the underground. And quite literally their progeny eventually died out and the whole race that was left behind on Mars died out. It's rather a strange feeling to realize that the remnants of a race died out in the underground totally. They just left all their hardware behind.

SS: In Rod Steiger's book he spoke of March 18th, 1990, as being important dates in the history of the PSI-Corps. That's during those dates their equipment was zapped and all the psychics resigned March 20th. Could you explain all this?

AB: Well, basically what had happened was a very strange story. In January 1990 Psi-Corps received some new hardware because NSA has been working on this for years; psionic-type hardware that boosts the mind and its capabilities of people who already have a great deal of capability it becomes quite formidable.

They found themselves, after that infusion of new equipment, after learning how to use it, with the capability of locating a picture buried in someone's files anywhere or tracking a missing file or missing information that they had instructions to recover or locate. They didn't do the recovery they merely located it. And how we found out about this was a very interesting story.

Back in November of 1989, Duncan had told me, he said that I would have the proof of the Philadelphia Experiment in my hands during March of 1990. Well it seems like during that weekend, that particular Sunday, preceding the walk out, I was in Phoenix. I was out for lunch that Sunday and a phone message was waiting for me that Preston had called and he was in a panic. When I finally got him on the phone it was already too late. But he told me that a person had visited him.

You see his father had been a senior scientist in the Navy working on the Philadelphia project. And that before the scientist died he told his son what had happened; that he had certain files and that he was turning them over to his son but he advised his son not to ever tell anyone about it. So this guy, unidentified to me never fold anyone about what he had.

One week prior to the visitation with Preston he gets a knock on his door. Government agents. "We want to search your house." "Well what for?" "Get out of our way." And they start tearing his house apart. He knew what they were looking for. He didn't have it there, but he said, "I don't know what you're looking for." And they didn't find it. It took several days. And he shook them. And he went and got his stash of files which contained two roles of film of Rainbow 3 and Rainbow 4 which were the two Eldridge tests plus a stack of papers, still highly classified, apparently, from what Preston said, because they wound up in Preston's hands.

So he started calling his friends to see who could take cafe of this and take it off of his hands because the government agents were right behind him about two hours right behind him trailing him. None of his friends would touch it, those that he got through to. And he finally got to the end of a long list of people and Preston Nichols was at the bottom of the list. He called Preston and he was home. He said, "I'm coming over to give you something." "Well what's this all about?" "I'll be there at such and such a time."

He goes over and hands him the file and the film and tells him the story about his father and the government agents and so forth. Preston says, "Well what am I going to do with it?" He says, "I don't know. It's your problem now. The government agents are about two hours behind me." He takes Preston out and shows him his car with bullet holes in the door and he says, "I'm getting out of here." And he left.

Preston in a panic tried to get a hold of anybody he knew that day, including myself, I was not reachable. Duncan, previous in that morning, got wind of something, due to his psychic sensitivity, something very heavy coming down. lie took off from Preston's, went home, went into his bedroom, locked the door and crawled under the bedsheets until about 5:00 that afternoon. This is a fact. He panicked. He would not even answer the phone. He shut off his answering machine.

So this comes down. Preston can't get a hold of me. Finally when he did get through (I called him) he said, "Well I called up NSA and told them I had some very hot material here that I don't want." They asked " What is it?" And he told them. They said, "Well we don't want it." He says "I've got to get rid of this stuff it's black card clearance level: So he said, "Allright we'll send some F.B.I. agents to pick it up. So they eventually arrived and he turned it over the them after verifying that they were F.B.I. He got rid of the whole business. Then I called after that, and I still haven't forgiven him for it. But the interesting connection to get back to your question about the Psi-Corps, is that we finally put together the fact that with the new equipment they were able to identify a photograph if it's in somebody's file and apparently they have standing orders to find any information whatever dealing with the Philadelphia Experiment and make damn sure I didn't get it. And they spotted something and found out who this guy was and they sent out the government agents and this whole story ensued about this man who's father was the senior scientist. And we don't know what happened to it. We never saw it again.

In any case, the next day, from information I had, there was a big rumble in the Psi-Corps, and they were warned by somebody on the outside who was a little friendly to us to get the blazes out of there, that all of your installations are going to be melted down, literally. And they were warned to get out. All of them walked out except ten who were brand new recruits who had been told to defend the machines with their lives and they did literally. They died, the rest walked out, out of the government's service and disappeared. There was a panic meeting with the President...

SS: Who melted the equipment down?

AB: Alien there's none ... let us put it this way - extra terrestrials.

SS Do you know who they are?

AB: Yes, but I will not say.

SS. Are these the same ET's that Preston said melted down the buzzsaw antenna at McArthur airport around the Thanksgiving weekend last year?

AB: Yes, basically. And they took care of four sites in the US. one at Fort Meade and there were three other locations. I believe one was Atlanta and another in the New Orleans area and one somewhere in the West. Everyone of them walked out and disappeared. The locations were melted down. The President had a panic, practically apoplexy, tried to call back the old director who was in retirement. He said it was an emergency, we need to talk with you. So he came down to talk with them. I'll only give this man's first name - it's Emil. He was already 90 in age. And they told him the problem. He said, "I'll look at it but I won't give you my answer for about 3 days. I'll tell you then whether or not I'll come back and reorganize this, whole operation for you."

In the meantime they contacted NASA to try to get NASA to give up their psychic agents, not Psi-Corps, who are trained for a different mission and are not trained in pairs but individually. NASA told them to go shave it and got away with it. They said, "We're not trained to do the work you're doing. You can't have our people. "So finally on that following Friday, Emil came back to the President and said, "My answer is no. There's no way I'll come back and do anything for you. You're in deep trouble as it is and you're going to be in a lot deeper trouble in about 30 days." And he packed up and left. And I presume that that was the last we've seen of him at least in those quarters.

But the Psi-Corps remained dissolved until ... they tried to recruit new people and they did pick up a few but nothing like what they had before because it takes 4 years now to train them, it used to be 5.

SS. So they're building it is back up again.

AB: They've been trying to build it back up. Then before the beginning of the so-called Mid-East War with Iraq, they made a deal as part of the situation building up to the declaration of war wherein we got all of the backing from British European nations with the exception of Germany, they went to them as part of the deal and asked the British and French and Russian Governments, who all had their own Psi-Corps, if they would loan again numbers to the U.S. Government for their operations. And they did. They got transfers and built up the whole organization to the original strength overnight.

Now they had a little bit of a shock because the new group tried to bring somebody back into their group to run the operation, Emil, and from what I understand, he was spirited out from right out of the midst of them, again by E.T.'s, and they were told this could never happen under any circumstances, that they were ultra-secure in their facilities. That shook them up. They all walked out. They are now at point zero.

SS. So they waked out a second time

AB: That's right. That's the information I have. And the government is left holding the bag once more. And as far as I'm concerned they Can continue to hold the bag - empty.

Psi-Corps organization is not vicious, they are not vicious people, they're very well trained, sensitives and psychics who have a mission. The basic mission has been, in more recent years, not the original one in the first 5-10 years, where they were used for assassination. But they finally drew the line on this when NSA was formed and they became part of NSA in 1949-50 because their original genesis was in 1940 under Harry Bennett under the Roosevelt administration. But they said, "We will not do assassination any more because you have other organizations and intelligence groups that can do this much better than we can so we refuse to do it." But everything else they would still do and that was basically: psychic espionage in this country, outside this country and anywhere on this planet; obtaining information about anything that the government wanted to know that was not obtainable through the normal intelligence channels; or say too many agents got killed or something; let us say they wanted to look at the inside of some super secret Russian or Chinese installation or whatever it may be. The psychics could look inside of it and see what they want. They could read books off their desks, reports off a desk, filch them out of a file.

SS. They could dematerialize them?

AR: Yes they could. They could start a fire in a filing cabinet a couple thousand miles away if they wanted to do that or if were so instructed.

SS: They could plant disinformation also?

AB: Theoretically they could. They could transport small objects. They had their psycho-kinetic ability well trained. It was not that they could move large objects, they couldn't. But small objects like a piece of paper or a small package of paper like a report they could handle. They had a lot of capability.

They were also very heavily brainwashed and very heavily let us say, indoctrinated in the government's service and what they were to do and indoctrinated to the point that they totally accepted the protocols under which they operated. And this of course meant that they were loyal to the service, to the government. The only mores and ethics they knew was what the government told them they had and this was implanted. impregnated, conditioned into them to the point where there's hardly an change. I've only known of two people, I will not go into this in detail, who decided to walk out and succeeded in doing so. But when they surfaced it started the largest manhunt in the history of this country to find those two and bring them back into the government's service.

Preston saw the police reports, the F.B.I. file reports because the police can came into one of the swap meets, drove right up the aisles where there's not supposed to be any car, virtually pushed people out of the way, stopped right at Preston's exhibit and said, "You're friends with ____________." Preston says "What are you talking about?" "You know what we mean." And Preston looked down on the police car's front seat and there was the F.B.I. dossier and the picture of the individual and the names of both of them they wanted, and if any information is obtained about the whereabouts of these two, I'll not give the names, report immediately to the F.B.I. office in Philadelphia, Pa. They never did catch them. They were much too smart. They knew what they were doing.

They also stole a few pieces of government hardware in the process including ... I might as well say it... the government has alternate reality generators, the portable type a person could carry in a small suitcase and they can ship themselves and that suitcase with them into an alternate reality and they cannot be traced. They cannot be found.

SS: Kind of park themselves in another...

AB: Park themselves in another universe, so to speak, parallel to our own, very similar to ours as I've gone into in my lectures, the parallel reality thing. The government has the hardware for this, portable. They've had it for years. I don't know how long. And they had it and used it to keep out of sight and they would every so often look in on what was going on and find out the police were there and they'd say, "Well, they can stay there, we'll stay here. "The final outcome was these two people whom I knew from years before under circumstances I won't go into or it might identify them, eventually hitched a ride off planet and took a shuttle. There are shuttles regularly from this planet to Alpha Centauri 4 which by agreement is a safe haven for people wanted by the U.S. Government. There's a treaty. It takes about 12 hours to get them. Apparently they took all of their family which meant sisters, brothers, father, mother, whatever, with them. As far as I know they're still there.

SS: Who runs the shuttle?

AB: Presumably the Alpha Centauri Government, but I don't know. But it's on a regular basis twice a week. The landing point I have no idea where it is. Of course they guard it secret.

SS: What is their body form like?

AR: Alpha Centauri? Like humans, exactly the same. There's a much lower population on their planet. They're not overpopulated. They're an advanced civilization, a little ahead of us - not a great deal, but somewhat ahead of us. They don't like things like government headbashing and that sort of thing and they way they treat some of the government agents they no longer have any use for or whatever, if they are approached, and I don't know how it's done, if they are approached and asked for asylum, if they issue the card, you just get on the shuttle and that's it, you're there. Beyond that I don't know. I haven't seen them since.

That's a very interesting little side issue and our government doesn't like it particularly but there is sonic kind of a treaty and they honor it. Apparently there is that type of treaty with other governments elsewhere, and I gather it is all Earth governments or includes outside governments I'm not sure. I have the feeling it includes outside governments too. There's regular communication, I don't know if Preston went into this about the Super Luminary Communication Systems that were developed by ITT in the 1960's. It's another one of those little developments that come out of all of this business evolving from the Philadelphia Experiment and the spin-offs from that and research done by ITT because they were involved in the background of that program to some extent. They were very involved and were the principle contractor for the Phoenix Project, but they also had a lot of other little games also. One of them was building a whole new communication system. This was research based on higher order energies and the effects and the propagation rates and studied all this and found out. "This is all very interesting. With a sixth order energy we can develop a communication system with a propagation rate C6, that's C to the 6th power. They now have one C8, C to the 8th power.

SS: C being the speed of light?

AB: C is the speed of light, to the 8th power. That's so fast they can literally communicate clear across our galaxy with nothing more than a phase shifter. There is essentially no delay. With the C' system there was a delay so they went to the 8th. 50,000 light-years across our galaxy and they can do it in a fraction of a second.

So Einstein was wrong in one sense. Nothing can go faster than the speed of light? It can. It's long since been done. It was probably done long since he made the statement. Einstein did relent of some of his statements in earlier years before he died but it was not publicly stated that he had.

SS: Speaking of aliens and technology, do you know which aliens Tesla talked to? to?

AB: The Pleiadians basically that was one of his principle communication groups. Also a group called the K group. K stands for Kondrashkin. That's the best literal translation of English. They were sort of light green skinned humanoid like with no hair. If you put them up in the right garb and bleached their skin and put an old fashioned wig on them they'd pass very readily for an Englishman. Not that I'm trying to cast any kind of aspersions on English people but they most readily pass for English. And the dye or powder or whatever they put on their skin didn't last more than two weeks. Then there were 2 others and I don't know who they were. When you start calling out into space you don't know who is going to answer. And they did. Tesla knew 11 or 12 languages and I presume these people communicated back in English but I don't know that for certain. I wasn't there I only heard the stories from 2 other researchers who had worked with him before he died. I'm told of the equipment and the fact that he did communicate on an almost daily basis with somebody from the outside.

SS: You mentioned Reichian Programming in your lectures. How would one know if one was hit by it?

AB: You wouldn't after it was over. They pulled this system on Duncan once for certain maybe more than once and we have a friend back east who worked in a hospital who's seen the equipment, know what it does and what it's capable of. Preston's checked into the records and found that this particular type of advanced technology, electroshock therapy equipment is what they officially call it. It's now very advanced computerized with floppy disks and very small electrodes instead of the old big patch pads they used to put on people and tape the down. They now have tiny little probes 50 millimeters square and they attach them to certain critical sensitive points on the body, about 8 of them. And there's a computer program they now use which will induce the Reichian orgiastic state by electronics and hold it to that state and in that condition a human mind from conscious to subconscious is completely aligned and opened.

Consequently you can remove buried information in the subconscious, reprogram the person, do whatever you want in that sense. And when the program is over they close it down, restore the person to the so-called normal state with either blocks on memory of the whole thing happening or a whole total implant of what went on that day as a substitute to memory or whatever they want to do. They usually put in a substitute memory. It's happened to Duncan once. We had quite a time running that down but we did.

They can do this to anyone they want. They grab them physically and take them off to one of the hospitals. The law is that any hospital or institution in the U.S. that accepts federal funding must by law have one of these machines on their premises and there must be certain personnel, very limited, trained in its use. Now it can be used for "nominal" electroshock therapy in the normal mode which doctors use, thought it's much more sophisticated now and less damaging. Or they can use it for reprogramming, the same piece of equipment. But to do the reprogramming requires a special floppy disk, which is kept under lock and key and can only be used by certain government personnel.

When they do this number of the reprogramming it's done by government personnel. It is not normally shown [in] their records and there is never a charge made back to a hospital organization or to a hospitalization fund or medical fund of any kind, that is paid for 100% by the federal government and the record's swept under the rug. They put it once on Duncan and they tried to do it again.

SS: They physically snatched him?

AB: Oh yes. We had quite a time tracking this down that one Sunday. But they did do that. It's based on Reich's principle, his old theories. The original programming techniques were more physical, but now they can do it electronically. It's much clearer, so to speak, much easier to accomplish and much easier to cover the tracks. And the law says these instruments, pieces of equipment, shall be made available to non-federally funded institutions. They recommend that they have them but there's no requirement.

SS: Before going on, how do you feel about all this? Do you want to get revenge on these guys?

Where do you stand personally on this?

AB: I would love to get back at some of ... Well, where do I stand? Number one I feel it's long since time that the public knows the facts about how their government has lied to them practically about everything from politics to science to cover-up of secret projects and the abductions of People by the government, I'm not talking about aliens, by the government for reprogramming - plugging them into special projects against their will. Then when they're done with them they either return them to normal life or deep sexing them in many cases.

SS: You sound angry. Are you?

AB: Oh yeah. I'm very angry about it because they wrecked my life, they wrecked Duncan's life, they wrecked the lives of a number of other people who I knew who were on that project, the original Philadelphia Project. They didn't wreck so many lives from the Phoenix Project in terms of breaking family relations and all this sort of thing. But they did eliminate a number of people who were involved in the Phoenix Project. They were literally killed, some accidentally, some deliberate and otherwise reprogrammed and shipped off the God knows where. And a lot of them were shipped off to another time frame so they never were returned to their original point of origin and live their life out wherever they are, under what conditions who knows.

The massive redistribution, if you want to put it that way, of people, reprogramming them is something which is totally alien to our Constitution and our concepts, not only our religious concepts of freedom, hut our political concepts of freedom as we have known it under the Constitution for almost 200 years. The Constitution has existed longer but I say almost 200 years because these government programs have come into play since about 1947 and they get worse every year and they're not restricted to the U.S. But the U.S. seems to be the most vicious in it, by far the most vicious. The suppression of men and the control of the men media is by far the worst in the U,S. It's much worse than in Russia. There's more freedom to speak in Russia than there is in this country. I'm speaking of the last year or two not prior.

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   Interview with Al Bielek 1997,part 1

FROM: http://educate-yourself.org/ab/abglobalscienceinteviewaug97.shtml


An Interview with Al Bielek,
co-author of "The Philadelphia Experiment"
Part 1
Interviewed by Kenneth Burke at the Global Sciences Congress,
Daytona Beach, Florida in August 1997

Topics: TIME/SPACE TRAVEL/ALIENS/STAR WARS/OUR FUTURE
LE= Leading Edge reporter Kenneth Burke
LE: Whatever you'd like to share, just share, and we'll use this as the basis of a story.
BIELEK: Well, as you say, you have already published some information on the "Philadelphia Experiment," and there's been a lot of publication done in the last five years. I've been all over the country. I've been in Europe, and I'm scheduled to go to Australia in October for a major lecture there for the Australian MUFON organization in Queensland. The word's getting around.
It's an interesting thing that the first time I went public with the story in the lectures was in Phoenix, Arizona, 1989. I had only become aware of my involvement in 1988. It was all blanked out in the meantime. There was a very thorough job of brainwashing, believe me, but it finally broke through. It broke through in January 1988, when I watched HBO late one Saturday night. I had never seen the movie, "The Philadelphia Experiment." Of course, it had gone through the regular movie circuits before that, and I'd seen the dockets in the local movie in the town I was in at that time, Sedona, Arizona. The docket was "The Philadelphia Experiment." I was only there a week and, for some reason, I didn't go. I didn't see it again. Then, it went into the video format, and EMI Thorne took it
over and got the rights to put it on video from the producers, and they started showing it. So, that night on HBO at 4 a.m., they announced that the next feature of the evening would be "The Philadelphia Experiment." Well, I was about to go to bed, but I said, no, because I wanted to watch it. I'd heard so much about it.
The first 15 minutes were almost "dead on" what happened. There were six script writers, because I talked with the producer later. Where they came up with the information, I don't know. He didn't know either. He didn't even know for sure whether the thing ever happened, but he thought it was a great idea and they produced the movie. They were so close to 100% accuracy that it was amazing. That's what hit me. It re-stimulated memories, which were close to the surface anyway. The two major areas in the first 15 minutes were the number of people: for the ones on board the Eldridge, they showed 150, which is the normal complement of personnel for the ship but, for the test, they only had 25. It was a skeleton crew, because they weren't going anywhere except downriver.
They never went out to sea for the test, except for the sea trials for the ship before they held the test. For that sea trial, they had a full crew. In any case, that was one error. The other was that they said it occurred in October 1943. It did not. It was in August. There were three tests with the Eldridge: a 22 July test, which was totally successful except for the side effects on the personnel; a 12 August test, which was a total disaster; and, after they recovered from that and had replaced the burned-out, wrecked equipment, they decided on one more test, which happened in late October with the ship on-station and to take all personnel off, like they did in 1940 during the first successful test in the Brooklyn Navy Yard. No personnel were on-board the ship. It was a very small one, but that test proved that they had the right scientific basis and the right equipment, which worked. The late October test was also a disaster, even though there were no personnel on board, so they just scrubbed the whole thing and buried it.
The Eldridge, of course, was rebuilt, as it had to be to finish the war. That was for the parts which were left out for the test and to remove the heavy equipment. It went to sea in World War service, then, in 1946, it went into mothballs. In 1951, the Eldridge and one other ship were turned over to the Greeks as part of the lend-lease program, or whatever you want to call it, after the war, which Truman initiated. They renamed it the Leon, and it remained a training ship for the Greek Navy for many years. About two years ago, the US Navy approached the Greeks and said, well, we own the Eldridge and we want it back. They didn't ask for it, they demanded it. They wanted it back, period.
Believe it or not, there are photographs from the Greek "Playboy" magazine, and I have them, showing the ship as it was sitting in the harbor at a dock, rusting away. The decks were full of rust. The hull was in such bad shape, they couldn't take it across the Atlantic on its own power. They had to clean it up enough to tow it across the Atlantic. It is now sitting in the Norfolk, Virginia, shipyard being rebuilt. It took a little digging to find it, but I did. The people, who looked into this, who are also quite high-level former naval personnel, tried to find out and ask the Navy why they wanted to rebuilt it. They couldn't get an answer, and they were absolutely refused information. If you're not in the Navy, you don't have a need to know. I'm trying to arrange to get there to take photos of it, but I don't know the correct channels to contact. Although the Norfolk, Virginia, shipyard is semi-open to the public, I don't know if I can get into the area where the ship is being rebuilt, but I'm willing to try.
The ship test failed. There was too much power involved. The approach was faulty. It worked in terms of the hardware, but it failed in terms of the human element. So, in 1947, Dr. von Neumann, who was the second director from March 1942 onward, was asked by the Navy if he would reopen the experiment and the files to see if he could find out what went wrong and whether it could be salvaged or whether any part of it could be alvaged. So, he did. It took him five to six years.
He was in the process of developing the modern electronic computer with stored memory, which he did finish before the British, though the British won't admit it. In fact, he and one of the other well-known scientists, delivered the first working model of the computer to England after they delivered a model to the Navy. At the same time, he was working on finding out the nature of the problem with the "Philadelphia Experiment." It was a very long and strange sequence of events. Of course, everybody's heard about the "Roswell Incident" in July 1947. He was one of the members of the scientific teams under Dr. Van Everbush, who went to Roswell.
LE: I don't think most people know that.
BIELEK: No, most people don't. That was 7 July 1947. He was there at the crash site. There was one live survivor. Two ships crashed, colliding into each other, and they both came down. One was totally demolished. The other was nearly intact. There was one survivor from one of the ships. I don't know which one. One crash was near Roswell and the other was about 60 miles away. The original one was on the Braswell ranch, and I think that's where they found the survivor. To my knowledge from what I've been told, Dr. von Neumann did get to talk with the survivor, who discussed some of his problems, including the "Philadelphia Experiment." Now, I have other input from people who talked with aliens about the "Philadelphia Experiment," time, and so forth. The common statement was, "You people are absolutely stupid and ignorant about time. You don't understand what it is!" This came from somebody, who's an abductee on a regular basis. The comments were interesting. So, from my understanding, Dr. von Neumann talked with an alien, got some clues how to redesign the system entirely.
I do not know what he did because I was not part of it. I was removed from the Navy on 4 July 1947, removed from Los Alamos, sent to Washington, DC, for a court martial on the changes for which I was arrested, which were espionage. These were dropped when I got to Washington. It was just a means to get me out of the area and separate me from my family, which I've never seen since. My wife is dead. My son is still alive, but I've not been able to see him, and my attempts have been blocked every time. I went to Washington, where I was given a new assignment at Montauk. I didn't know it was Montauk - they called it Fort Hero, but it was the same location for the later Montauk project. From that point, after I was on base and out of the public eye so-to-speak or away from any of the other personnel, other than the armed guards who surrounded me, I was time-transferred to 1983, where they did the full erasure of my full memory of my career and everything as Zeb Cameron. All my credentials were removed and erased. Dr. von Neumann knew it was happening. He didn't like it, but he couldn't do anything about it.
They also pulled the age regression number on me, which was to reduce my body size to that of an
infant. Now, they can take a person back to a fetus. This is a common and usual technique, now, and
I know people who have gone through it, including my second son. (I have four sons by the way.) My
number two son, I found and I've met and know him. It's another long story.
LE: He was regressed that way, too, and given a name change?
BIELEK: He was also regressed back to a fetus; yes, the whole nine yards. I was reduced only to approximately a one-year-old boy. Why they stopped at this point, I don't know. I think part of the process they intended to put me through was subverted or failed. I know Dr. von Neumann interfered with it at one point. So, I was sent back to 1927 as approximately a one-year-old boy, because, my legal parents, whom I knew as my only parents for many years (Albertina Bielek, maiden name Kurchess, and my father Arthur E. Bielek) were the only parents I knew. I was totally wiped as memory, and I grew up as a kid, literally from a baby but, at the age of one by the birth certificate, which said March 31, 1927, by Christmas I would have been nine months old.
My first memory in that family was as a kid sitting at mother's grand piano next to a Christmas tree so high. I was sitting next to it, and they had the family around exchanging presents. It was a family get-together in Jamaica, New York. I finally was able to pull the memories back and remembered the fact that I understood everything they were saying. Now, since when does a less than one-year-old child understand what adults are saying? A few things blanked out. Certain things were said and didn't register or blanked out. The people who were there, of course, I knew later. I grew up with them. I knew exactly who they were - various aunts, uncles, cousins, brother of my legal mother, and so forth. Well, I grew up knowing nothing of my past. I was Al Bielek. I was very heavily repressed in many respects.
Eventually, World War II came. I went into the Navy - I was drafted into the Navy, which was very unusual - but I had a letter of directed assignment for electronics. I passed the Eddy test, and I was the only one in the entire school who passed the test. So, I went into the Navy, came out, went into my own business, and eventually left that and went to school. I moved to California, finished school, and became an electronic engineer from 1958 through 1988. I retired in 1988 but, during that period, I developed a very passionate interest in the "Philadelphia Experiment." I had no reason to know why at that point. In 1952, I met Ivan T. Sanderson, who did his own investigation into the "Philadelphia Experiment" in 1952 and 1953. Then, I moved west and recontacted him 10 years later in 1963, when I was working in State College, Pennsylvania.
LE: During this time, before you had awareness unfolding about your interaction with the government, didn't they have you doing anything?
BIELEK: Not until sometime around 1956. I was in Hawaii working for the Navy department in 1956 as a civilian employee through Hoffman Electronics of Los Angeles and was assigned to Pearl Harbor. Iwas there a little over a year. During that period, I had a great deal of interest in many things, including psychic sensitivity. One night, I blanked out while sitting on the doorstep of the Hawaiian Hotel on the ocean front. I blanked out for a period of an hour or an hour and a half (I don't know how long). I knew something very unusual happened, but it took until about 1986 to find out what happened in 1956. I was pulled to the "Montauk Project" by the then (and at that point, I think the only) station master for the "Montauk Project" on Long Island, because there were others which were also operating in the same mode. The original one was on Long Island. The station master then was Jack Pruitt. I've since met his son, Glen Pruitt, and we finally verified that was the man, because Glen has a picture of his father. Preston and I both looked at the picture and said, yep, that's him, Jack Pruitt. Glen Pruitt didn't now whether his father had or had not been involved in the "Montauk Project," because his father denied it.
LE: So, with some kind of electronics, they pulled you up ...
BIELEK: All the way up to 1976 to interview me to become a person to work on the "Montauk Project." They finally got my interest when they knew I was interested in UFOs. They said, well, do you have an interest in them? I said, yeah. They said, how would you like to see one. Of course, I was interested, and they said, well, come with me. So, we went into one of the cavern sections under Long Island, which are part of the Montauk peration, and they showed me a UFO which was literally trapped in this underground cave. It was about 60 feet in diameter and gold in color. At this point, I was introduced to the crew, whom they had captured intact. This thing actually tied back to the "Philadelphia Experiment" of 12 August 1943. It was caught in the time-field shift. For reasons we
don't know, they wound up disabled in the underground of Montauk. They said, how would you like to work on this thing. Well, they had me. So, I volunteered to work on the "Montauk Project." Most of the people, who worked on the "Montauk Project" they got to volunteer one way or another. These were not the "Montauk boys," that's a different story.
LE: By fascinating them and getting them started.
BIELEK: Yeah, getting them fascinated. Dangling a carrot in front of one's nose in the area of one's expertise or principal interests. So, they got me there, and I was there for a long time. I remember it as about seven years, but they were able to manipulate time so well that, when that phase was done, they sent me back to Hawaii to the same night, after spending what I can estimate today as approximately seven years' work, back to within an hour or so of when I was pulled out.
LE: They were able to compress time that way.
BIELEK: They can manipulate time like you wouldn't believe. Of course, I spent other time at Montauk, and I've been on other government projects. There were many, and not all of them have come back to memory. About six have come back. That was the Montauk thing, which was later. At the time I was at Cameron in 1947, when they pulled me there to 1983 and gave me the identity of Al Bielek, I didn't know who I was until the memory came back that night while watching the movie. Of course, I've done much intensive research since to find the rest of the story and get my memory reestablished, because it was spotty.
LE: Let me ask you this. What was the time span when you worked those seven years?
BIELEK: That was 1976 to about 1982.
LE: So, when you were put back at the steps of the hotel, and you moved forward in normal linear time, what happened ... say, you had two bodies working at two different places?
BIELEK: No, it was the same body - the same me. They pulled me physically out of the location
where I was then sent me back.
LE: Yes, I understand. When that part of you that came back through normal linear time, wasn't there another part of you ...
BIELEK: Well, it's hard to explain and to get people to understand this ...
LE: In other words, you were working in Montauk from 1976 forward, and a part of you on the doorstep came through linear time and was doing something else, right?
BIELEK: That's right. I was an electronics engineer for many years, and I was running, not a dual
personality, but a dual existence.
LE: Well, was it like two time-lines going on?
BIELEK: Yes. That would be the best way to explain it. What would happen - of course, they did this with Preston, they did it with me, and they've done it with many other people. You might be a civilian working as an engineer, as I was and as Preston Nichols was working for 15 years for a major corporation on Long Island. Preston was also doubling as an engineer at the "Montauk Project." He couldn't ever figure out how he was doing both at the same time. He finally did figure it out when I prodded him, after my memories of the "Montauk roject" came back after my second visit to Montauk.
My first visit was in August 1985 right after a USPA Psychotronics Conference in Dayton, Ohio, where I met Preston, whom I didn't know then was my brother but suspected that we had a connection and I knew I knew him from somewhere but it took quite a while for that to filter through. I was invited to see Preston and went there in August 1985, when he took Duncan and I to Montauk. He'd made many visits as a surplus dealer in electronics but, at that point, he still did not know that he had been involved himself. Duncan and I didn't know either. He said to us, I want to take you guys there. You're both sensitives, and I want to take you to a place I know. I'm not going to tell you exactly where I'm taking you, but we're going east on Long Island. I want you to see what you sense and pick up. I know you guys have never been there before. (Ho, ho, ho. That was the joke of the century,
but we didn't know it.)
Well, we sensed what had been at Montauk. We sensed there had been a monster roaming the base - that a hugh project had been operational here that had been abandoned. The evidence was everywhere physically. Buildings were everywhere with doors standing open, wrecked equipment inside, and the gates were broken. It was an abandoned base. This was because Montauk crashed 12 September 1983. It's a long story how or why, but it was after the involvement with the "Philadelphia Experiment," which occurred 12 August 1943 for the Eldridge and 12 August 1983 at Montauk. They were deliberately designed to lock up. It took a long time to understand this and gather the data about what was involved. This was part of the alien operation, because there were aliens at Montauk by design and by agreement with the government. They said, we'll help you build it. You've got the technology, but you have to understand what to do. We'll show you how to build it. So, the government asked what was the price, and the aliens said they wanted their own agenda on the station periodically. So, the government agreed to it. Even though it was run by private scientists, the government and the intelligence community, in particular, had oversight. There were no regular reports to the House or Senate, because not one cent of government money went into the operation. It was all private money. (Not now, but in the first phase up to 1983.)
So, there was not traceability. It was a privately run operation with government oversight through various military and intelligence organizations, and, to some extent, they set the goals and the agenda in the sense that the aliens would come in. They told Dr. Herman Sieunterman, the administrative director of the project until 1983, that he would have to learn to work with aliens. He was a hard-headed German, who, in his life, probably had never seen an alien or even thought about what an alien might be. So, he was told by the government that he would have to work with them. Well, of course, all of us who were there did work with them. We all knew them, saw them, and
worked with them every day. They had a draconian, who was in charge of and was the chief director of all the alien interests. He had his own office. We called him Charley. He was a seven-foot tall draconian, weighing 450 pounds. He was extremely intelligent. The first time he was there, he looked down at humans as a near sub-human species, which was almost dirt beneath his feet because, really, they were intelligent far beyond human standards.
LE: Would you say, human standards, like maybe 2000 IQ or 5000 IQ or?
BIELEK: I wouldn't even know how to estimate. However, being that the IQ standard is logarithmic, there are rare humans with IQs from 300 to 350. He would probably be somewhere around 1000+ to 2000. They are highly educated and live a long time. There were other species there with whom we worked, who were helping us design the computer systems. They had very advanced computers, and we were working with an IBM 360 and 370 which, at that time, were the most advanced we had. Later, the Cray I came onto the scene. Of course, if we had had the Cray III, which we did not have in that era, there would have been many fewer problems than we had to circumvent by using the IBM 360 and 370.
LE: Now, I realize this is very complicated but, what are some examples of the alien agenda or can you talk about that?
BIELEK: Right now, we don't really know what they wanted to do, and I was not privy to everything that went on in the station. I was what was typically called middle management. I was below the station master in rank or pecking order, if you will. I was involved in a number of different projects, where I had certain degrees of expertise and what I was assigned to do. Of course, I had to know everything involved. I did not know about all the projects that were ongoing, and did not know all the things that aliens were doing, except they were interfacing with humans. There was some genetic experimentation involved at Montauk. They helped design the equipment so that they could run their own agenda. The only part of their agenda, which I know for sure, was that, on 1 August 1983, the orders came through, and they were there to see that the station was turned on and run continuously, 24 hours a day, until 12 August. That was very abnormal, because it would only run six to eight hours a day every three or four days for whatever experiments or work involved - whether it was being run by the aliens or by the humans. The aliens were always in the background with computer work and computer expertise.
LE: So, they just didn't talk about what they were doing, because they had no reason.
BIELEK: Right, they didn't. The only one who ever gave me information was Charley, and that was because we got friendly. I asked him about his background, education, and so forth, and his life span. He said, they could live up to 10,000 years. I asked his education, and he said, well, you're familiar with PhD and the doctorate level, like a doctor of science. We have 16 disciplines in which we can achieve the equivalent of your doctor of science degree. He said that, when they are born, grow up and first start their education, they go through the first 160 years of their lives in education. He said he has the equivalent of 12 of our PhDs. I asked him how many he has, and he said 16 maximum. I said, well, you've got four more to go, and he said, yes. I asked him what he would do
when he finished them, and he said he didn't know.
LE: So, this window they opened, it sounds like that had something to do with the "Philadelphia Experiment," like there was some kind of link.
BIELEK: Yes, the "Montauk Project" had many things to do. They did many things in terms of time and space research. In the earliest phases, they proved they could materialize a thought from a person's mind into a physical reality. This, of course, involves religious concepts and ideas, which some of the Tibetan adepts probably can do with mind power, because they've disciplined themselves and learned how to do it. It is possible but is a very rare ability. It can be done with machinery. If you know what you're doing, it can be done every time. Eventually, they were able to do this at Montauk in the earliest phases of their operation.
Then, they went on to the time tunnels, which meant they could shift time forward or past, go to a location other than where they were, either in the current time or shift time simultaneously. Eventually, they could go anywhere on Earth, and they went to the Moon, Mars, the whole galaxy. They could go anywhere they wanted. There was a special program involving some research in 1983, when the station went down, it was resumed when the station was rebuilt in 1987. Then, it was called "Project Hellfire." I was in charge of that phase of it, which involved retrieving an object from a planet on the other side of the galaxy - 120,000 light years away. It was highly pecialized, and it is still highly classified.
All I will say is that two objects were recovered. They are alien, and we don't know who built them. I don't even know how they got the information that they were even there or where to go to find them. However, they were found and brought back for research here. Two teams were involved: the first was a Navy team and the second was a Marine team. I know most of the people involved with both of them. I was in charge, and, with the second, they had a lot of problems. I won't go into the details because it involves people whom I don't wish to expose to public scrutiny. Most of them are trying to keep a low profile today. The memories of it only came back to some of them because of the deprogramming of their programming by Preston Nichols. I was there when it happened and asked some pointed questions, so, I got some very direct answers from their own memories of what happened. "Project Hellfire" was only one of the little side projects.
They went into the Mars underground after reports from the colonies there that there were sealed entrances to some kind of underground facility, which they had no way to enter. They took bulldozers, caterpillars, etc., because they didn't have them on Mars to do that sort of thing. So, Montauk was asked to take a look at it. They could go right through anything. They would send a camera, in case it wound up in solid rock, only a camera would be lost - not a person or a whole team. They got pictures of an underground cavern system of some kind, so they sent a team there. There were many trips. Duncan and I went, and we went on our own a couple times and got our wrists and were barred from ever going again.
LE: They didn't want you going on your own?
BIELEK: No, they didn't want us going on our own. They didn't know what we would find or do there. In any case, that was one of the things done at Montauk. There were many other things about which I have no idea. Of course, that became part of the link with the "Philadelphia Experiment" on 12 August 1983 by deliberate design of the aliens. In retrospect, we can look at the reason for it. Then, we didn't understand why the station had all the problems. I was not there when it crashed. I was told to take a vacation three days previously.
LE: Okay. So, you didn't see the monster, then.
BIELEK: No, I didn't see the monster then. We've seen it since and have photographs of it today. I was not there when it crashed. Duncan was part of the business of making it crash, but he had an ongoing hatred of this station from about three weeks prior to its demise. Preston and a number of other people were involved. There were certain engineers who wouldn't go along with it. Dr. von Neumann was totally exasperated, when he found out that the orders were given and orders were in process of destroying the station with "Junior," and so forth. This thing was designed by aliens to lock up. It had to be 12 August 1943 and 1983. As we subsequently found out by research in the late 80s that (the aliens knew it all along, and I suspect there were other secret societies which knew this), Earth has its own biorhythms like the human body. The human body has three biorhythms
which cycle and peak occasionally. The Earth has four biorhythms, and they peak and become literally a synchronization point once every 20 years, and it's always on 12 August, plus or minus a half day.
LE: That's my birthday, isn't that weird?
BIELEK: That is interesting. In fact, I have another friend, whose birthday's 12 August. My real birthday is 4 August. In any case, on that date, these energies peak and become a synchronization point. The aliens knew it, and we didn't. We had no idea why they wanted Montauk left on during that time until it locked up with the "Philadelphia Experiment" and we wound up at Montauk when we jumped off the ship. The ship was pulled out of the harbor into hyperspace because of Montauk. On the 22 July test, nothing like this happened. Montauk was operational, but I don't' know whether it was on that day. Even if it had been on, it would not lock up, because it required this peculiar synchronization with Earth's fields to produce a lock through the space-time continuum, if you will. The aliens did this in order to rip a hole in space and time, so they could get large numbers of aliens through.
Aliens have been on this planet for a long time, but in small numbers. After the "Philadelphia Experiment" 12 August 1943, they started to arrive in larger numbers. They could come in with big ships, park in orbit, come to
Earth, and they literally started invading Earth en masse. They build a huge underwater base in the Bikini atoll in the Pacific. Our intelligence found out about this. The Japanese were having problems with the aliens, after we dropped the two bombs and before they surrendered. (There were more than two bombs, by the way.) In any case, our intelligence found out about the huge underwater base in the Bikini atoll. How they found out, I don't know, but there were an estimated half-million UFOs in that base in the lagoon underwater. These would not be detectable by any techniques we had at that time. They decided to hold the "Operation Crossroads" tests in the Bikini atoll. They pulled the natives off the island, built their facilities and, of course, made the two tests of one on the surface and one underwater with the bombs.
There are actually pictures, which I have. I inherited them by peculiar circumstance. They show UFOs trying to escape at the point of the neutron flash before the huge mushroom. In the mushroom, of course, there are ships shown vertical, being blown apart, and UFOs attempting to escape. Only a few made it. There is really no answer to this question, but how come they didn't know this was coming and how come they didn't try to escape. The only deductive conclusion I can come to is that they didn't believe our bomb was strong enough to penetrate the lagoon floor and collapse their sanctuary. Since we set off four atomic bombs in that lagoon (I got this from Phil Schneider before he died because his father was there for the test), they made sure that facility was destroyed.
LE: That facility was destroyed?
BIELEK: Oh, yes, it was destroyed. This set the invasion and takeover way back, and they've never
been able to recover, though they're still working at it.
This was one of the things that occurred and one of the aspects that are buried about which the public doesn't know. Those pictures released to the press and the public, show the mushroom and the ships being blown half out of the lagoon were air-brushed to remove the evidence of UFOs trying to escape. The pictures were taken from 10 miles away and are damn good. They had excellent optics and very good cameras.
LE: I don't know whether you want to share them or not but, if you'd choose to share a copy of them, we'd like to add them to your story.
BIELEK: I might be able to. I'd have to get them out of storage. Phil went around lecturing about this while he was still alive. They don't show up too well in the video shots, but he did show the photos in his lecture series about the Bikini atoll test and what happened. His father was there. His father was involved in the "Philadelphia Experiment." His father was the chief medical officer. How he wound up in the Navy is a very strange story, because he was a German U-boat captain, who was captured by the French in 1940. He was turned over to the Third Army. Some negotiations were involved, obviously, and I'm quite certain that my real father was the one who did the negotiating - that is Alexander Duncan Cameron, Sr., was involved directly in those negotiations, I'm sure, because he smuggled nine German scientists out of Germany between the period of 1933 and 1942. Cameron was in charge of the transference of the German scientists to the United States after the war under
"Operation Paperclip." He was directly involved with that.
LE: There were hundreds who came out of Germany, right?
BIELEK: Yes. He was involved with the selection, and I only found this out quite recently. In any case, he had a long and strange history after he mustered out of the Navy with a heart murmur in 1929. He was given a pension. He was involved, and I did get confirmation from somebody, who was in a position to know, because he knew my father. He knew my father was in intelligence - what rank I don't know - whether he was officially in the Navy or not, I don't know. There is no record; all the records have been wiped.
LE: Something I've never understood is that, since the government had access to time travel and all the
information there, why did Montauk get closed down. It seems like it could have been foreseen and stopped.
BIELEK: The reason it was shut down in 1983 was because Duncan and others wanted it to be shut down. They had to wait until after I, as Edward Cameron, and Duncan (the original Duncan) came to Montauk, spent our 12 hours there and, then, were shipped back to the Eldridge. They had to wait until that sequence was over, or they would interrupt a part of the time history in this sequence and alter history drastically. So, they allowed that to happen. It was after we had returned to the Eldridge when Duncan #2 was given the cue by Preston, sitting in the chair in a semi-transit time. Of course, he conjured up from his subconscious this monster, which went into the machine, became clothed in physical reality by the station equipment, and which started tearing things up.
It tried to get into the radar tower, but it couldn't because the tower was so strong. Jack Pruitt told everybody to get out except Preston. He said, we've got to stop this thing. They tried to shut off the power switches and,
like on the Eldridge, they were frozen. So, they got axes and torches and cut the power-feed cables. Nothing happened. So, they figured there must be a second set of power-feed cables. They cut those, and the lights went out, but the station kept running. Having this very complex computer with its own memories and all the algorithms of advanced science and technology buried in it, did what Einstein said would happen years before. He said, if you build a machine of sufficient complexity and enough power, if given time, it will become intelligent of itself.
This machine, called the "Montauk Operation," did. It found its own way to feed itself enough power to keep going. At this point, Jack Pruitt said to Preston, you're going in there with an acetylene torch and cut up the cables and the feeds between the computers and the drivers and everything else to shut this thing down. Preston said, no, I'm not. Of course, Jack Pruitt pointed a 45 at the back of is head and said, yes, you will. This is Preston's story and I don't know who was there, but Preston says he was the one who was ordered to go cut the cable feeds. When enough sections of the brain were cut, it quit and the monster disappeared within a matter of an hour or less and moved to the location it's seen today. If you get in the right position with ordinary 35-mm cameras with ordinary film, you can film "Junior," as we called him. He's still there, but the station was off.
Now, the station went back on-line in 1987, but it didn't go into full power-mode operation until 1993. With its resumption with very high power from 1993 onward, "Junior" has been seen to move around. He's actually been seen swimming in the surf east of the lighthouse at Montauk Point, although I cannot verify these reports. He has been seen on and off the base walking around by people with their naked eyes - without cameras or anything else - when the station's operating. The station has been down for a while again. When it's down, it disappears. here, I don't know, because people can't see it without the energy.
LE: What's your guess as to what they're doing now with the station going again? The same kind of
time-space travel?
BIELEK: No, that has been moved elsewhere. I think they have the capability to do it there. They do have the capability for a completely new order of time manipulation. They're not using the time-tunnel situation now, to my knowledge. Preston is working there at present, and he's finally at the point where so many trips have been made back and forth, he's remembering much of what he did and is talking privately about it.
LE: He's working at the project again?
BIELEK: Yes, directly. He says from 1991 onward, but he didn't remember this until quite recently. He knows that, recently in the last year, he's been heavily involved. Now, they're doing a totally different thing that has been the avant garde research project of which there are now 36 similar ones, including Montauk Point. These are particle beam weapons of such enormous power, like Tesla proposed, but far more powerful than Tesla would have ever believed possible. This beam is so powerful that, for those who have technical minds, it puts out 1 x 10 to the 25th power joules. That's more power than a hydrogen bomb can generate.
LE: Is its purpose to protect us from the aliens?
BIELEK: Yes. Exactly. The cover story is "Star Wars Initiative" to prevent missiles from being fired from Russia as was feared at one time. Now, we don't expect that would ever happen. The story was that, if they were fired, we could destroy them incoming. This was the story given to the public and to the Congress in order to appropriate money for the "Star Wars Initiative." It was never intended to be a defense against war between the US and Russia or whomever. It was designed for the sole purpose of keeping aliens out. Any one beam is so powerful that, literally, they can fire into space. Of course STS 48 shows this, and that strangely captured document (sent from space to the ground station and the guy that recorded it on his own, not at NASA facility but parallel), shows the system firing from the ground at a craft, which was moving at what Dr. Holtman said was approximately 100,000 mph. Then, it made a right-angle turn, was fired upon and accelerated to something like
400,000 mph. So, by the time the beam hit the point where the ship should have been, the ship wasn't there any more and didn't get hit. The beam is essentially instantaneous, but they have to focus and the ship got out of range. This showed something firing from the ground. This probably was one of the early tests of the particle-beam weapons system.
LE: I think I saw that on a video. Was that on a video?
BIELEK: Yes, it was on a video that was circulated very widely. The original that I have shows some of the vehicles we were putting into orbit and certain other things involving the shuttle at the time. They took the pictures from the shuttle. Now, whether this was part of the process in which the shuttle was deliberately involved or whether it was accidental, nobody can say for sure. There is proof that there is a system deliberately aimed at vehicles up there, and, further with this particular SDS mission, it showed UFOs. I mean, they are plainly visible in daylight, taken from the shuttle. Of course, this was never supposed to get to the outside, but the director of NASA was fired right after that because they accused him of letting it leak. Maybe he did let it leak deliberately.
LE: Now, let me ask you this. Preston is involved in this, have they approached you to do anything? Do you think they will?
BIELEK: No. I have adamantly refused to be involved. I have since said, if there were something of sufficient importance, I would definitely consider it but, to my knowledge, I've not been involved. I am still officially on the access list for Montauk. I found that out from Preston. His and my names are on the list, but Duncan's is not, because he's so adamant about not being any part of it. Of course, to be polite, his mind is not what it used to be. He has physical problems, so he's really not physically eligible.
LE: Do you have concerns about things going on with this technology right now?
BIELEK: Yes. They've used it to shoot down UFOs. When Phil Schneider was alive, he had a very high-level clearance. Because of his position with NATO, he traveled all over the world. He saw the huge junk piles of UFOs shot down by the Russian versions of the Montauk operation. He said they had football fields covered up to 50 feet thick with these things. He said they were shooting them down at the rate of about 30 a week at that time. He said we've shot them down at the rate of maybe five to seven a week in the US with our systems, when they're operational. He said, the Russians had set up a zone of neutrality, which was anything from 250 miles above the surface of the Earth down.
No alien ship will go across that artificial border without permission. If they do, the Russians don't care who they are, and they'll shoot them down. They shot down a number of friendly Pleiadian ships, and the Pleiadians were hopping mad, but they got the message. Stay out unless your invited. If you're invited, that's fine, but, if you're not invited, we don't care who you are. We'll shoot you down if you pass that 250 mile barrier. If it's a known hostile, they'll shoot them down much farther out.

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  Interview with Al Bielek 1997,part 2


An Interview with Al Bielek,
co-author of "The Philadelphia Experiment"
Part 2
Interviewed by Kenneth Burke ( http://www.leadingedgenews.com ) at the Global Sciences Congress,
Daytona Beach, Florida in August 1997
http://educate-yourself.org/ab/abglobalscienceinteviewpart2aug97.shtml
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LE= Leading Edge reporter Kenneth Burke
LE: What is happening either on Mars or the Moon these days that you know about?
BIELEK: I can give you very little information about Mars. I know there are colonies there, but there's evidence that the colonies have been overrun and destroyed. The story is by an alien group - the reptilians. The reason we can say this is apparently what happened is because all the radio transmissions to Earth from the colonies, which were on a very regular basis, suddenly shut off about two years ago. The radio amateurs used to monitor them with their own equipment, because they could triangulate and know they were from Mars. Suddenly, all transmissions shut off, and they say there are no more. Something's happened up there.
Of course, the moon's being mined by US-Russian interests and obviously some alien interests. We're mining the back of the moon, bringing titanium back. The moon is an artificial object. It's not natural. It was built as a space vehicle by someone long ago and parked in orbit because they apparently had trouble with it. Whether you believe it or not, because there is no proof of this, the story goes that whoever was in the original moon parked it there, built themselves a smaller moon object and took off. There are stories in the Vedic literature that there were two moons around the Earth for a period of time. Prior to about 25,000 years or so ago, there was no moon in the Earth's orbit. It was brought in and parked. We've been up there, and the Russians are up there. We're mining the back side for titanium.
I can't say this is proof, because it's not public. Interesting information came to my attention about one and one-half to two years ago from somebody involved as a consultant to the government and certain civilian military sectors, and has good connections with the military. He drives all over the country to service cryogenic and related equipment found out the US has been melting down scrap titanium. He got a few facts and figures together and found that they are melting down a conglomerate of 12,000 tons of scrap titanium per month and the Russians are doing the same at about the same rate. Now, it doesn't take too much figuring to start asking where are they getting all this scrap titanium. In the heyday of producing titanium at Henderson, Nevada, it took half the power
output of Boulder Dam and half the water from Boulder Dam to process raw ore and finish titanium bars, ingots, whatever. The maximum they could produce 24 hours a day, seven days a week, was 500 tons a year. Where did they get 12,000 tons of scrap? It was coming in from the moon.
I found this out and asked Phil Schneider about it, because he had so many connections. He said,
yes, it was coming from the moon. He showed me a sample of the titanium. It was strange-looking
stuff. When I asked, he said it was from the moon. I said, isn't this the same titanium we use here on
Earth when we mine, process and produce our own. He said, now, it is a different isotope. It's not the
same type of titanium, and the moon is largely titanium.
LE: Does it still work the same?
BIELEK: Yes. It still works very well as titanium.
LE: Something about which I'd like to ask you concerns our talk with somebody recently, who gave us all this documentation. He feels that it's imminent that the government is going to uncover this massive UFO
coverup.
BIELEK: They're not going to do it on their own, because it's too embarrassing in many respects. The coverup has gone on for so long, since Roswell and particularly after the overflights of the White House in 1952, when the National Security Council got into it and had a split vote at that time of six to release the unvarnished information to the public and the other six to bury it. Of course, the chairman of the NSA at that time had to cast the deciding vote to break the tie. That chairman was Richard Nixon, who was the director of the NSA until he became president. He cast the vote to bury it, so, they set up "Project Blue Book" - one for the public and one for the military and, of course, have buried everything ever since. It has become embarrassing to them because they have captured so many ships and have so many aliens, who have been hostages or "guests" of the government as it is politely said.
Even though there are people who think that anyone believing this is having figments of their imaginations, there are tons of highly classified proof which is buried because they do not want the public to know. If the public becomes heir to anything that augments the theory or shows real proof, it's seized under national security rules. The people keep talking; some have been shut up and some killed, like Phil Schneider, for example, who knew the facts and had directly interviewed aliens himself in Area 51. He knew what was going on. He attended underground UN meetings - the real meetings are not held in New York at the UN Plaza. The policy-making meetings are held in the underground military bases (what he called the DUM [deep underground military) bases). They are all controlled and dictated to by the tall gray aliens. He personally attended two of these meetings and said, after the second one, he was working for the wrong people. That was why he quit his service as a geologist for the government.
LE: So, his observation was that the UN is controlled and run by aliens?
BIELEK: Yes. That is his flat statement. He never made it publically, but I will. He said it was run by aliens. He said that the aliens are in back of UN policy, and that they are in back of so many things that are happening on the Earth. He says that they are gradually taking over and are running, shall we say, "The New World Order."
LE: Now, which group of aliens is this?
BIELEK: The tall grays - the old ones.
LE: And they're from Sirius?
BIELEK: They're from Zeta Reticuli. In a way, they're related to, but they're not the same as the short grays, which are almost robotic. There are five or six different species of grays. The sixth one is the tall grays. Then, there are the six-foot type, then the five and one-half-foot type. These are all male and female, which do reproduce in a manner which we recognize and know as normal reproduction. You get down to the little three and one-half-foot grays, who are asexual and can't reproduce. They can't even digest food. These are the renegades. They are sort of the drones of the gray society, who do the work for them.
LE: Do we know how many of these are here?
BIELEK: At one time, there were millions. I have no idea how many are here now. They have split away from the government and do not even work for the US government any more. Some of the stories were, "The government lies too much." Well, I think we all know that, but even the grays finally tumbled to the fact that the promises made to them by the government were broken. Of course, the government says that the promises made to the government by the grays have been broken. They're probably both lying.
LE: So, all this information that you can read from various sources about the organization of "The New World Order" and the "black helicopters" and all these things is being orchestrated by the aliens?
BIELEK: Much of it is. There's also a cross of a very human group - the 12 families, including the "Illuminati," the "Bilderburgers," "CFR," "Trilateral Commission," "Club of Rome," the "Committee of 300." All of these are human groups, the inside elite, who want to set up a "New World Order" and a "One-World Government." They want to reduce the world population at the same time. Now, these guys are not stupid. One cannot deny they are very intelligent, but they see things in a different light than the average person. They don't believe in freedom, except their kind - a "you are part of us" kind. If you're not, we'll maneuver any way we want. You are essentially slave labor to the rest of the world in their eyes. They see that the world is overpopulated (and I don't think there's any question that it's ecologically overpopulated), and they want to reduce the world population by any means: biological warfare, nuclear warfare, whatever.
They've given up the nuclear warfare, because it would not be in their interest, since it would destroy them. By whatever means, they want to reduce the population to about one-half billion. They wanted to do it by the year 2000 but have had to change the goal to the year 2025, because of the near physical impossibility of doing this in three years - five years from the original inception of the plan, although the plan is older than 1995. They've extended the date, but they still want to reduce the world population and set up more of their view of a "garden paradise," and convert many of our cities and living areas back into the natural primeval forest that existed 500 years ago. They're literally ready to plow under cities in this country and plow under the highways. They don't want to destroy all but many of the cities, because they want to reduce the population. This is the plan which they're in the process of implementing. Of course, we've got the aliens involved.
LE: That's the variable.
BIELEK: Yes. That's the variable element. In their view, they are using the aliens. In the alien's view, they are being used by the aliens. So, who is on top. Who's really running the show? Nobody knows at this point. You could read Branton's work, either the 26-page synopsis or the entire book. He was a US government employee for most of his life, underground working with the alien situation. According to his statements, the US government is underground with troops, and he says there's a see-saw war going on under our feet that's been going on for years as to who's going to come out on top and run the show. There are two or more alien groups vying for control in the underground, and the US government's trying to keep things under control with our troops - surprise - and he has reported all this. So, it's really a free-for-all. At this point, nobody can say flatly who is on top or who's going to come out on top.
From my observations, I don't think "The New World Order" is going to make it. They will appear to make it up to the last moment and will achieve still more control than they have right now, which is almost full control now. They're going to get to the ID cards, the bank Smartcard containing your entire history, and they intend, by 1999 before the year 2000, everybody in the US and probably everybody in the world about whom they have any concern will have to have one of these cards to do any banking or anything. If they don't have it, they're an outlaw. This is the plan and what they're working on. The cards are starting to show up. The banking is being converted to a cashless society, now, at an accelerating rate. These are all "New World Order" plans. They intend to achieve complete dominance and control of the society by the year 2000. They know Earth changes are coming, too, and they're trying to circumvent them as much as possible and set this up before the Earth changes
become highly destructive. They're not fools. They know this is going to happen. They have their prepared sites, where they hope to survive. I don't think they'll survive as well as they think. Their last resort that they have vehicles to leave the planet and go somewhere else.
LE: Do they know when these Earth changes are supposed to happen?
BIELEK: From time travel, they have a pretty good idea. Phil was a geologist. He was not able to time travel. He knew about it, but he didn't get to do it. He says that, as a geologist, we know the Earth changes are coming, where they're going to happen, and how heavily they're going to hit. For example, San Francisco will be hit with an earthquake of Richter 11 to 12. I said, that will wipe out the city, and he said, yes. He said the Navy is already moving all their facilities out of the San Francisco Bay area. They have not closed San Diego. He said San Diego will be wiped out. He said they're moving much of it to Bremerton, Washington, but they don't know whether that will be safe, and they don't know what to do with the Pacific Fleet - whether to let it sit at anchor and hope it rides it out or move it to sea and hope it rides it out there. He said that they know it's coming, but he said they know
it's coming, but the problem is - we cannot predict when. Now, for the last 72 hours, yes. There are certain indicators that, within 72 hours, will say, this is it, but earlier than that, it's not predictable.
LE: Well, with your contacts, have you been able to find out when the government feels this will happen?
BIELEK: Not in terms of what the government thinks. I've seldom talked about this publically, but it's probably time. In terms of time travel and my access of future events, because in my and Duncan's jumping overboard from the Eldridge, we did not go straight to Montauk. We went to the year 2137 A.D. We arrived in bad shape. We wound up in hospitals for about a month. When we finally found out where we were, we both (particularly me) started asking lots of questions about where we were, what had happened, and so forth. They told us about various events and showed us some maps of the altered United States. We asked, what the hell's going on here? We looked at the maps from all over. What events had changed in government, in society? They were rebuilding from the damage of the period from 2000 to 2015 to 2016 era. Finally, everything had settled by the time of 2025. As they told us, when the Earth changes hit really severely, which was around the year 2000, at that point, the governments all over the world collapsed, and the military took over. The Earth changes were very severe, and there was a tremendous loss of life. By the year 2025, the planetary population was down to somewhere around 450 to 500 million. So, "The New World Order" accomplished their goal in the process of losing it.
LE: Losing the world.
BIELEK: Yeah. They do start to rebuild, and they do rebuild. I would say that, at that point, they were about half way to rebuilding what we have today. Of course, they would never rebuild as completely as today, because they would never achieve the population. They would keep it under control from that point and held it to about 500 to 800 million. There is no longer the pressure for vast industrialization. Science and technology were saved completely, and the military (particularly the Navy) were taking care of this. The Navy has a fleet (now, but I don't know how many) of the Phoenix class submarine, which is 960 feet long with double-titanium hulls. The Russians have the same sort of type. That's where the titanium is being used. These things are monstrous. The crews on board are 1400 - all officers and no enlisted. Of course, they have missile racks, but with the double-titanium hulls, they can dive and sit at a depth of approximately 7000 feet and survive. They are solid-state nuclear powered, which are more durable than the old type.
They don't have any waste-product or breakdown problems. The important part is that the Navy and those who realize what is coming have decided that they have to do something to salvage science and technology and the knowledge to rebuild in the future. In everyone of those Phoenix class subs, they have put a series of 18-inch laser disk players. With data compression, modern techniques and a 18-inch laser disk, they can store the history of civilization, all of the science and technology which we have today, on one disk. They probably have backup disks. Every one of those subs has such a system on board. I know people who were involved in the initial design. They initially started with 36-inch laser disks. I talked with a man, who was involved with the project. They decided that was too big, and have reduced it to an 18-inch, which they decided was quite large enough. He said that, with the newer techniques of data compression, they can create an enormous data compression and data storage on an 18-inch disk. The worst case analysis suggests that some of those subs will survive. They only need one to survive and have an intelligent crew survive to start to rebuild civilization. They know people will survive into the future. They know that not all cities will be wrecked.
From my knowledge of what I heard at that time, the cities which survived and which didn't, Atlanta survived as a city, but it was wrecked because of the riots and the war which befell it. By the year 2000 from the data I have, reduced this population from 3-1/2 million, believe it or not, to 15,000.
LE: So, you want to be out of the cities at this time.
BIELEK: Right. Denver survived completely, as did some other cities. Some of the more rural areas survived quite well. The problem, is that you don't want to be directly in the Rocky Mountains, because they are going to be badly shaken. Denver is far enough east that it will not be hit by mountain movements. If an asteroid were to hit, yes, every city on the continent would be hit by the ripple effect through the mantle. There are military watching for that and, hopefully, we will never be hit by such a large object.
Hale-Bopp was diverted and split into six pieces in the process.
LE: Oh, really?
BIELEK: Yes. Then, they moved it out early and changed the orbit. According to the scientific computer estimates, they told the public it would be a fly-by. Drs. Hale and Bopp said about one million miles from Earth from the latest computation; the original one said 100 to 125 million miles away. According to the information I received, the military said it was on a direct collision course with the Earth. There had been 23 course corrections, and they could see where it was headed. They were sweating bullets.
LE: It was being directed, like some people thought?
BIELEK: Yes. It was being directed straight into a collision course with Earth.
LE: And there was a spacecraft directing it, like some people said?
BIELEK: Yes. There was a very large craft in back of it. They had good photographs of it through the Hubble telescope, too, believe it or not, which were never made public, of course. The military or NASA or both had been tracking Hale-Bopp for some 10 years - well outside the solar system, because it's the largest comet known in the history of man. It's a very large object with a huge trail. They were able to track it that far out, because they have very sophisticated equipment.
LE: How could they divert it if the spacecraft was directing it?
BIELEK: Because they found a way to divert Hale-Bopp by means of the particle-beam weapons systems and other highly advanced techniques. They were able to move it, divert it from the Earth, and send it out early. It was actually supposed to hit apogee about 28 April to 1 May. It was on its way out by 28 April.
LE: Did they attack the spacecraft?
BIELEK: Yes, they did. They destroyed it. I've not seen the photos, but photos were taken, and the information I have is that there were many attempts through the military and cooperation with remote viewers, who agreed that there was a large object there. Nobody could agree about what or who was in it. They couldn't even agree on the size, because I got feedback through military channels that there were 137 remote viewers involved in this, from whom they got all the data and stories. They got 137 different opinions. None agreed with the other. The military finally concluded, and I think rightfully so, that this means that there was somebody intelligent on board, who was directing the return view of what these people saw to what those individuals perhaps would like to see. Since there were 137 different views of what was seen, they felt obviously this was being directed and obviously they were hostile or they wouldn't be acting that way. So, they took the view that whoever was in that object and the object were hostile.
After Hale-Bopp was out of the way, it was sitting there for a period of time. They had been transmitting radio signals for a period of time that have never been decoded. They've been unable to crack them. I have inputs which suggest that it was not a language anyway but a computer code for some other purpose, and that would never be cracked if the purpose of the encoding were never known. At least, I heard that they didn't. All of a sudden, the radio signal stopped, and the thing was gone. It was destroyed. There was a lifeboat, which went very rapidly and went outside the solar system. According to information I have, a series of very special aircraft, which we have, destroyed it. The series is the Aurora, and very few people know about them. That's our most advanced flying weapon that we have.
The newest version that the US builds (the other version is built by the Russians) will do Mach 35 outside of the atmosphere, meaning around the Earth in less than one hour. It can circumnavigate the entire Earth in less than one hour. According to information I have from Phil Schneider, who had privy to a lot of information before he died about which he did talk, is that the new Russian version is smaller than hours, and they can do Mach 50 in the atmosphere. This is the Aurora aircraft, which uses a very special form of atomic nuclear grid bed engines with
enormous thrust. Each engine puts out 10 million pounds of thrust. With two of them (20 million pounds of thrust), they can fly straight from the Earth to the moon with a payload and come back with a payload without refueling. These vehicles, which can go deep into space, were used to get to Hale-Bopp and destroy it.
LE: Since you mentioned where you went before you went to Montauk, could you share a little bit more about that society when you were there?
BIELEK: It was still in the process of being rebuilt. If I remember correctly, the banking systems were nearly gone. The banking systems did vanish completely later. The governments were in a very strange state. They were localized governments but they were evolving.
LE: But, they had the technology to send you to Montauk?
BIELEK: Oh, yeah. They had the technology for space travel even then. Of course, we have it now. It was not lost, but they were rebuilding what had been here on the Earth, and it was a tremendous job. Another problem they had was what could they do with the nuclear waste? And, that's one of the biggest problems we have on the Earth today. It's poisoning the atmosphere. The nuclear waste floating around in the upper atmosphere is really what's responsible for destroying the ozone layer - not the spray chemicals and not the Freon-12. That's absolute hogwash. It is due to nuclear waste floating around in the atmosphere from all the bomb tests and various other things. The nuclear waste in the ocean is another problem that is catching up with us severely. In the future, this was a problem. I don't know how they do it, but they were in the process then. We didn't have much time to
ask questions.
From there, we were sent back to Montauk, and, at Montauk, a lot of our memories were erased. Duncan still does not remember the side trip, but I do. How I became aware that we'd had a side trip was another strange story involving a man, whom I met at the First International UFO Convention in Tucson, Arizona, put on by Wendell Stevens. A guest there with whom I spoke (and I'll only use his first name), was Jeff, who was an extreme psychic. He was brought up through the project, Trojan Horse, which was a German project transferred to the US after World War II. He was very, very psychic. We had a conference going and were sitting around a big round table. I went over to talk with him and ask him some questions. I'd never met him before that. I handed him my business card. He held it and started reading off it. He said, hmm, he saw something strange there. I thought, well, he's psychic, he's going to come up with something. He said he saw two time lines. He said, "You've
lived through the same time period twice." I thought, "Holy baloney!" This guy's onto something." He looked at me and looked at the card and said, "Your name's not Al Bielek, your name's Edward Cameron. You've got a Ph.D. in physics. You graduated from Harvard. Furthermore, you don't really know what happened with the Philadelphia Experiment.'" At that point, my mouth was literally hanging half way to the ground.
LE: This was when?
BIELEK: This was at Wendell Stevens' First International UFO Convention, Tucson, Arizona, I think in
1993 - 1992 or 1993. I said, well, I know there are some gaps in my memory about the "Philadelphia
Experiment." I don't know everything that happened. He said, "You don't know what really
happened." He said, "You went into the year 2137 with your brother. You were stuffed full of scientific
information by the government there and sent back, and the US government taps you now,
periodically, because they figure the information is safer with you two than anywhere else." This is
what he told me, verbatim. I went through the concrete of the floor, and there was no basement. I was
flabbergasted. I had never seen this guy before in my life and he did this reading. Everything he said
has proven to be true because, eventually, I did remember.
This guy was absolutely unbelievable. He has been all over Europe and high society. Later, he
showed me his scrapbook of photos of the people in Europe with whom he used to party - in
Bangkok and all over the world. He was supplied with money from unknown sources. He was being
directed by an outside alien group and was under the guidance of - I can't remember which there are
so many of them. However, he was navigating them so to speak. They helped train him as part of
project Trojan Horse, and which they moved to Brazil. He was born in Brazil of normal parents and
raised in that project. He escaped sometime around the age of 12 or 13. The rest of his life is a little
obscure to me, but he was sent to the UN to talk with a certain person, which he did, and that guy set
up a bank account for him and said he'd always had money in the account. From that time, he
traveled and met various people.
I do not know what his real function was supposed to be. He wanted to work with me in Phoenix and a third party, and, in the process of boarding a plane in Tampa, Florida, to go to meet us in Phoenix, he was abducted by US government agents, knocked out, and put on a plane that was going to go to Russia, if it was read remotely correctly. That plane was turned back, and he wound up in the underground in New Mexico, where he was helped to escape. It's a longer story, and I won't go into the details. He wound up on the surface and was told
that transportation would be provided. He stood on the side of the road and watched a bus come down the road. The engine died right in front of him, and the bus stopped. He talked to the bus driver and told him he needed to get to the next town. The bus driver said that he couldn't take him because he didn't have a ticket. The guy said that he had money and argued the bus driver into accepting him and paid him. The bus driver dropped him off at the next town, where he met some people I know, like Bill English. I think the next town was Alamagordo, New Mexico. From there, he called me wherever I was. I went back to Phoenix, and he arrived several days later from New Mexico. He told me where he was, and I went to meet him in the motel. He looked haggard and was haking like a leaf. He looked like he'd been through the concrete mixer several times over.
He asked if I saw anything strange about him, and I said, "Yeah, where'd all your hair go?" He said, "Where I was in the underground facility, they shaved me clean of every stitch of hair on my body and told me a story of torture and everything else that the civilian doctors ...." I asked if they were human, and he said, "Yes. He said they were torturing me. They wired me up, but I don't know what they were going to do. I was given help to get out and here I am." He showed me that back of his neck (and I have a video of this, because the guy in Alamagordo did a complete analysis and video of him), he had a big hole where they must have had some kind of probe. He had Army fatigues on rather than his regular clothes, which he acquired in the process of his escape, because his suitcases had vanished at the airport when he was abducted. He finally made it to Phoenix. Well, we didn't do anything like he'd originally planned, and he eventually recovered and his hair grew back. But, he was so badly shaken when I met him, and had obviously been through a very harrowing experience, and for what reason I don't know. I have no idea what it was all about, except that somebody did not want him to meet me and a third party, whom I'll not name. That broke up the operation literally.
I can surmise what it was all about, but I won't go into it because of the identity of the third party, who
is a fairly young person for whom I don't want to cause any problems.
LE: Something about which you talked is that the reason they leave you alone is that you carry some kind of energy field.
BIELEK: That's part of it, plus the fact that I traveled through time and came back. I have my own time loop. One of the problems is that Dr. Norman Levinson, who was a math professor at MIT (born, I think in 1912 and died in 1976, I believe), wrote a series of mathematical books. I found four or five of them on the shelves of the library at Princeton, the Institute of Advanced Study, which he wrote about a series of things called the time equations, the time matrix, and such, which are still classified today. One of the things, which he developed and said was that, if you produce a disruption in the time field, it becomes unstable, because, just as an electronic transmission line for radio or TV work, it has an impedance in the line. You must terminate that line at its appropriate characteristic impedance or you get reflected energy.
You don't get full transmission of the power down the line. It has to be properly terminated at the right impedance, which is well known to electronic engineers, which I am. If you do not terminate that line at the proper impedance, and it's either too low or too high, you get reflected energy back to the source. You don't get proper power transfer. This is well-known and well-established. The same thing holds for the time field. If you cause a sharp
disruption, which was the case when the "Philadelphia Experiment" locked up with the "Montauk Project" on 12 August 1943 and 1983, you produce a disturbance in the time field. Like an unterminated transmission line, you will cause a ripple in the time field and reverse time energy fields started to go back.
Of course, Dr. von Neumann knew this in his math. There was a problem in 1963, where the forward field was met by the reverse field. He mathematically extrapolated that we were going to have a real problem, like most of the North American continent was going to wind up in space and the rest would be covered by ocean water. They had to put the Earth on a new time line, which was successfully done in March 1963 by a group, involving Dr. von Neumann and three other scientists. I met one of the others, but the other two were from the future, and I don't know who they were. Dr. von Neumann had his own time machine and recruited these people to work for him.
LE: All right. So, we're on a different time line now?
BIELEK: Yes. We're on a different time line than the original - the whole planet. That saved the day, so to speak, to prevent the forward and reversed time waves hitting each other, because the reversed one was attenuated severely by going on a new time line. Shall we say, this vectorially avoided the collision by going off in a different direction. That's exactly what they did, so the effect was minimal. We're still on that alternate time line, and this has helped, in a way, to change history. There is such a complex of problems involving time engineering, re-engineering, being on a different than the original time line, that it's hard to say where this may all come out. Shall we say, the innermost levels of the government and the scientists, who work with it, are well-aware of this problem. They have been doing time engineering and re-engineering. Of course, outside groups have been concerned about this, as well.
There's another group, of which I only recently learned, is the group which runs the "Montauk Boys" project. That's a very long story in itself, since my number two son was a "Montauk Boy," and we go into it sideways because of that, finding out that there was not just one. All the "Montauk Boys" projects are now away from Montauk. They went in 1980 or 1981. I went into other sectors, all underground bases (six on Long Island). Every major city in the US has one. They're processed all over the country. In fact, the "Montauk Boys" is a generic term. It doesn't refer to location, only to the processing and the product. They're hitting them all over the world. Over 10 million Americans have been processed in the "Montauk Boys" project.
LE: I've read different information about things with which you've been involved. I've never really understood what the "Montauk Boys" project is.
BIELEK: This is a project to implant and program them for future use. The original program started in about 1975 and 1976. It's ongoing to this day. They had to pick these kids at a vulnerable age around puberty. This means that the candidates were selected. They are quite careful about selecting them. They have to fit a certain genetic pattern. They want these candidates from anywhere around 12 to 16, sometimes as late as 17. Beyond that age, around the age of 17, the mindset starts to become fixed, and they can't really be set up and trained the way they are wanted. The ideal ages seem to be from 13 to 15. They are programmed, conditioned to be push-button controlled for remote programming already inserted into their subconsciousnesses through the implants and the
conditioning of each individual.
The "Montauk Boys" are now implanted by some very sophisticated techniques. They go through training first, processing, mind control, implants in the subconscious, command factors, personality changes and variants, preconditioning to do certain things upon command. The command will be supplied either by a final level of programming or, if the final level's inserted, there are certain command functions which can be delivered either by a radio transmission (because the human brain will receive scale of transmissions if not damaged). You can transmit from an FM or AM radio transmitter (typically AM) a scale or energy nnouncement, which will be heard by the candidate by the scale of reception techniques of the human brain. "If you reach this message, call this phone number and you will get your instructions either to report to a certain place or to set into motion that preprogrammed program."
LE: Based on your knowledge, what kinds of things are they being programmed?
BIELEK: I didn't know for what they were being programmed, but now I know. They are being set up
to be assassins, riot makers (like in the LA riots a few years ago which were not restricted for LA),
spies, sex slaves, whatever. I might add that there are "Montauk Girls," as well as "Montauk Boys,"
though I only know of one. They're apparently a fairly rare commodity. In terms of females being
converted into sex slaves, "Project Monarch" is much more common, as Cathy O'Brien has
explained in her book. I won't go into that.
LE: We published her information previously.
BIELEK: Yes, it is quite well known. I presume there are "Montauk Girls", who are programmed in a similar manner, although you have a problem physiologically in terms of the different polarities of the chakras in the female from the male. Nevertheless, a way has been found to program them. They can be set up to be sex slaves, male or female. Primarily, they like to set them up as saboteurs, rioters and assassins.
I'm sure everyone has watched in horror the business of who assassinated the world-renowned designer in Miami Beach. When they were finally able to be sure who murdered this designer, I took one look at his picture and could see that he is a "Montauk Boy." They have a certain look. If you see one in person, you know almost immediately whether or not he's a "Montauk Boy." There are certain characteristics in their auras that are modified by their electronic programming and processing or, if you are good at reading body language (as is Preston Nichols), you can tell from the body language.

LE: There are millions of them?
BIELEK: There are 10 million-plus in the US alone, and they're continuing to program. I took one look at this guy's picture and said, "He's a 'Montauk Boy.'" He might have acted as a normal person up to the point that somebody pushed his buttons. Now, interviews with his family are coming out. Number one, we had no idea that he was a homosexual. He denied it all the time. We had no idea that he was into this sort of thing. He was a nice, quiet, well-mannered boy. His earliest roommate said that he was a great guy, a humanitarian, and did all these good things, and he had no idea that he could turn into a murderer. The next roommate, of course, was one of the victims. They asked the second roommate if he might be a murderer, but he said, of course, he's dead. He went through this string of murders. Who ordered this and why? What did this designer in Florida know or what connections did he have all over the world?
LE: What did he find out that they didn't want him to know?
BIELEK: Right. He was a homosexual, and that seems to be disparaging. He apparently was in and out of the gay bars and knew an awful lot of people. Who did he know who was dangerous to someone? That's the question. Why did they order Noonan to murder him. This was an outright order in my view.
LE: Now, because of your being involved in all of these projects and traveling through time, they don't want to fool with you because they don't know - like current travels over a copper wire, you've actually become part of the copper wire. There's no precedent for the kinds of things through which you've been, so, they just don't fool with you.
BIELEK: Well, the one other precedent, which exists and is similar, is my brother, Duncan. He is
probably physically kept alive (because he was dying at the "Montauk Project" as the original
Duncan, and they had to find another body for him), and he was reborn in 1951. That's all in the
Montauk series books. He is in a similar position because they have to keep him and Preston alive to
2003. As it turns out, they told Preston that he'd time-traveled, but he doesn't have any recollection
and doesn't believe it. They started doing some specialty programming on him, and he started doing
some for himself (which is difficult to do), and he started to remember that he has done some
time-traveling himself. Dr. John von Neumann is alive for the same reason. He's been a time traveler.
I've dubbed a name, "Atlantis Not Revisited." I gave one lecture on it by that title. They have to keep
him alive, and he's in his 90s. His mind is nearly shot, but he's still alive.
LE: So, until 2003, they have to keep everybody alive.
BIELEK: Because there's a 20-year damping period, according to the equations of Levinson, before the time-field system is self-stabilizing and is stable by itself. He said that, after the disruption, it takes another 20 years. He said that you have to stabilize it and, I guess, the only thing that is stabilizing it is us four people - certainly, three of us, and probably the fourth - Dr. von Neumann. We are the human damping factors. How this works, I have no idea. Nobody I know has been able to explain it. They have to keep us alive for that reason. After 2003, supposedly, we're expendable.
LE: In the year 2000, the Earth changes are going to happen, so, it looks like, basically, just quickly without going into a lot about this, how did you see this happening initially - like volcanoes?
BIELEK: Volcanic action, severe earthquakes and, one of the other problems, is the very violent weather that is developing. This violent weather is also partially due to "Project HAARP," as well as natural changes. "Project HAARP" is causing such disruptions that the jet stream is getting closer and closer to the Earth. If the jet stream actually gets down to surface level, we'll see winds of 300 to 350 miles per hour, which will wipe out everything - buildings, forests, the works. We've already had 120 mph winds on Long Island, which were not been reported to the public. They've had 160 mph winds in Oregon, which were apparently reported on local TV. They couldn't understand why the winds were so fast. They had 150 mph winds in England in 1986 or 1987, which ripped out 11 miles of highway - not so much the highway but broke the trees of the forest off at ground level.
LE: I know there are a lot of theories about the uses of HAARP. What is your observation?
BIELEK: It was originally intended to be used for weather modification. Since Preston Nichols has
been in touch with Dr. Nick Begich ...
LE: Yes, we interviewed him also for our newspaper.
BIELEK: Yes, he also has lectured for this group. Because he has to look for the modulation wave forms in Alaska, he made some observations and recordings, and he compared them with some data which Preston has of the Montauk modulations when they were using it for mind control. They are identical. This means that "Project HAARP" has the ability of being used for mind control.
LE: Now, these different satellite towers and radio towers and all this sort of stuff or directly?
BIELEK: What the public doesn't know is that there is an original HAARP in Alaska outside of Anchorage. There's another one in Canada. There are two in Russia, which might not be built as HAARP and precede "Project HAARP," but were used in the weather modification program. There are repeaters for the HAARP program all over our continent, including one on Long Island. Obviously, they're not there strictly for the purpose of weather modification. Preston pointed it out to me on my last trip to Long Island. It's a well-known antenna farm, but they're not telling anybody what it's for.
LE: When things do happen in the year 2000, do you recall what kind of government was in force at that
time?
BIELEK: It went to martial law, because it came totally out of the hands of our government to handle
the disasters, which were piling on top of each other. They couldn't bail out the states with
emergency aid and assistance. There weren't any money and physical facilities. They declared
martial law and let the military take over. The military became the government.
LE: Was this all over the world?
BIELEK: Yes, essentially, but maybe not totally. I don't recall if it became a worldwide problem, but it most definitely was in the US. There were certain countries and areas of Europe, which disappeared or had very severe damage - worse than in the US. In terms of the US, we had problems on both coasts and the Gulf coast. The five great lakes became one lake. The Mississippi River becomes about 30 miles wide and is an internal causeway, and they eventually built a bridge over it - the longest suspension bridge in the world.
LE: Both of the coasts had severe damage?
BIELEK: The coastal damage was worse on the West Coast, but nowhere near as severe as Gordon Michael Scallion envisions it. Part of Los Angeles survived. Parts of San Francisco survives. San Diego vanished completely, because the destruction of the land slowly moved inland, so that the ocean actually got in as far as the Salton Sea, as I remember. The Gulf Coast, including most of Florida, disappeared - not the Panhandle. A strip about 50 miles wide across move of the Gulf Coast area, all the way to Mexico, went under water. This included the city of Houston. New Orleans vanished. Chicago vanished and sank in the mess. Other cities were badly damaged, and others survived quite well. The biggest problems were the earthquakes, the cut-off of the power grid, the cut-off of transportation and the cut-off of food supplies across the country. These started riots due
to starvation and lack of food. The human element became the worst element.
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 The Montauk Project and the Philadelphia Experiment

FROM: http://www.world-famous.com/MontaukStuff/Montauk-Project-Prods.html
Newly Found Underground Videos:

The Montauk Project and the Philadelphia Experiment
Quick Short Descriptions:
Rare Salvaged Video Descriptions
Filmed in a basement
Survivors of the Montauk Project
Montauk Project: Some of the earlier lectures that Preston Nichols and Al Bielek have done. There is information that is here that you cannot find in their modern day lectures. This next set of underground videos with Al Bielek, and Preston Nichols, give still more insight into the various secret projects.
Montauk Project:
First Underground Interview
With Al Bielek, Preston Nichols, and Duncan Cameron
Video taped in the basement at a unknown location in the US, these Montauk Project retirees-Al Bielek, Preston Nichols, and Duncan Cameron give an introduction about what the various projects were all about. They also talk about how and why the projects got started, and what their involvement's were.
Quick Video Description-Al, Preston, and Duncan speak of the unspeakable on the various projects taken on at Montauk:Project Invisibility, Project Rainbow, Philadelphia Project, Project GOD. All started with a series of UFO crashes in New Mexico during 1947, 1948, and 1949, salvaged equipment, and a live captured Alien.
Projects concerned Mind Control, Telepathy, Teleportation, Time Travel, Alternate Realities. Key founders of the projects were John Hutchen, Dr. Kurtenhauer, & Nicola Tesla-THE DIRECTOR!!!. Preston explains Tesla's involvement with Extra-Terrestrials and his eventual sabotage of his own machines and resignation. Al discusses his Metaphysical abilities and altered states of reality. Duncan discusses openly his connection to the "Psychic" Montauk Chair/Teleportation experiences, his past and future travels to the year 6069, Mars, and other Alternate No Time Universes. Discussions also of weather and mind controls projects with Wilhelm Reich and Z-Argon gases.
Other recruits were among Albert Einstein on Teleportation, John Von Neumann on Alternate Realities, Dr. Levinson on the Levinson time equations, and David Hilbert on Hilbert multi-space time-All of which contributed to todays Stealth Technology

An extremely interesting set of videos. The only known video of all three survivors together. Changes the way in which we perceive in the physical world around us. An inconceivable source of amazing information. (see Special Note ** below) Contains 2 Videos, Part 1-90 Min., Part 2-60 Min. Both are unbelievable.
Private Collection-Not available in bookstores nor distributors
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Montauk Project:
Second Underground Interview
With Al Bielek, Preston Nichols
Again, video taped in the home of a Paranormal researcher at an unknown location, Montauk personnel Al Bielek gives more advanced insight and details about the Phoenix projects, Teleportation, and how the USS Eldridge left the space time continuum, entered hyper space, and entered a worm hole at which point he jumped off the ship into another time line.
Al also Describes Nicola Tesla involvement since the project start in 1934, to his eventual sabotage and resignation in 1942, Extra-Terrestrial Bases, and his teleported travels to the Moon, Mars, Atlantis, and other lost civilizations. Workings with alchemy through chemical manipulation of matter.
Al's explains how his consciousness was incarnated into another body, Alien micro chip implants, and treaties made with the Grays, Pleiadians, and Reptilians regarding technology and our Earth involvement.

An extremely interesting set of videos. It gets into the details of things that are beyond our comprehension. Contains 2 Videos, Part 1-60 Min., Part 2-60 Min. Both are unbelievable.
Private Collection-Not available in bookstores nor distributors.

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Montauk Project:
Third Underground Interview
With Al Bielek
Yet a third underground interview with Al Bielek as he speaks out on the Philadelphia Experiment and many adventures of time travel. Al seems almost to be talking in a trance state.
Al discusses the filming of the movie "The Philadelphia Experiment" and explains how no one (including the Navy) would come forward to discuss the Montauk details. The Institute of Advanced Studies in Princeton acquired Smuggled Scientists from Germany (including Albert Einstein) to work on Black Projects. Von Neumann zero-time frame reference could bring back teleported subjects back safely during tunneling experiments.
Some related projects are discussed including how a Hilga Marro's father, involved in Montauk, disappeared to work training Aliens "Human Personally" on the far side of the moon so they could interact covertly with humans on Earth. Also portable invisibility machines used today by secret service men. Time Tunneling required psychic info through the akashic location system and joy riding to the Mars ruins of their ancient civilizations after hours.
A lessor known project called "God Edge".where Al explains how they could manifest objects by using the subconscious mind and how a computer can "develop" self consciousness.
Al also talks about worm holes, Time Zones,Anomaly in time, Alien intervention 100,000 years ago, intelligences off plant, and how different Alien races are fighting for the influences of our planet.

Extremely Interesting. There doesn't seem to be much more than this to hide. Another "must have" Video. Contains 2 Videos, Part 1-60 Min., Part 2-60 Min. Both are unbelievable.
Private Collection-Can't be bought in stores.
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Montauk Project:
Underground Public Lectures
With Al Bielek and Preston Nichols
Two Private lectures with Al Bielek & Preston Nichols. Each give a presentation of their facts and stories. Al talks about involvement in projects and Teleportation experiences. Preston gives some fairly detailed info on the technical part of some of the equipment through numerous slides, showing the theories and practical. He then finished up with an electronic "psychic demonstration" using the Delta-T Antenna.
Al Bielek (his now identify), tell events leading up to his involvement in Project Invisibility at the Institute of Advanced Studies at Princeton University through a series of co-incidence and hypno-regression.
Al speaks of a Gray ship that came to rescue a live Alien after a series of crashes in New Mexico during 1947, 1948, and 1949 and how information was exchanged. He explains how Nicola Tesla announces to president Roosevelt that he was in contact with Extra-Terrestrials and describes treaties on Atomic Energy with the K-group, The Orion groups, and a certain race of the Pleiadians on Atomic Energy.
Realizing what the government was up against, they recruited psychics in a psychic research and development group, Psy-Core, that would dabble into the Paranormal to do psychic spying and keep tabs on the various Alien groups visiting Earth.
The Earth's four bio-rhyme play a role in a 40 year time tunnel that was created between the 1940's and the 1980's to move necessary equipment to mold the past for the future economy. These were verified both by Nicola Tesla and also by the Aliens. A multi-dimensional universe, showing time is actually a mathematical Torus of 5 dimensions and how 2 scientists were pulled from the future to fix a problem in the present.
After the Navies discharge, Al was brain washed, had his memory erased, and was electronically incarnated into and other body using government technology obtained by Aliens.
Preston turns up with many actual photos, schematics, and block diagrams from Montauk and equipment used - everything from modified RF-amplifiers to crystal oscillators. Preston talks about electronically producing a consciousness, and thus creating a reality surrounding it. How, using white noise and an electronic time bending machine, to electronically create a time vortex. Ties in with Quantum Electro Dynamics studies by Richard Feyman and Hyper space .
He farther discusses the Cray 1 and PDP-11 computers used in time manipulation, and many of the problems faced at Montauk using crashed UFO and Alien technology.
Preston does a psychic demonstration with audience members using a Delta-T antenna that he constructed. He was able to send out computer generated thoughts, called Psycho-tronics, into members of the audiences minds - and yes, it does seem to work!.

What more can I say !!! These videos are excellent. Contains 2 Videos, Part 1-45 Min., Part 2-45 Min. Both are unbelievable.
Private Collection-Can't be bought in stores.
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Special Note ** - The first 2 videos-"The First Underground Interview", part 1 and part 2 were filmed in the basement of some researchers home and the ideal conditions for filming were not available. As a result, only these 2 videos are not of the greatest quality however they are still perfectly watchable. In spite of this, the information in these 2 videos is of such great importance that we felt that this information must reach out. This is also a rare moment when the only three known survivors of the Philadelphia experiment are in the same room discussing the actual events that took place.
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We have obtained these videos through the actual researcher seeking out this information. None of these videos can be bought through stores or other video mail-order companies. Most consider this stuff "mumbo jumbo" information, but it is in perfect context as in the Montauk books put out by the Preston Nichols and Peter Moon. They are only available through this offer.

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 Dave Wilcock about Montauk

Dave Wilcock's info on  Montauk and other interesting topics :


Dave Wilcock - Montauk, 2012, UFOs & the Illuminati (1 of 5)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glaasI73nPY&feature=related

Dave Wilcock - Montauk, 2012, UFOs & the Illuminati (2 of 5)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9mGU86_qjQ&feature=related

Dave Wilcock - Montauk, 2012, UFOs & the Illuminati (3 of 5)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXKWW0KNntQ&feature=related

Dave Wilcock - Montauk, 2012, UFOs & the Illuminati (4 of 5)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUJhcAaxR1A&feature=related

Dave Wilcock - Montauk, 2012, UFOs & the Illuminati (5 of 5)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCQrUdRGxk8&feature=related


JUMPROOM TO MARS : a new conversation with David Wilcock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMwJmIRF7ZE&feature=related


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Preston Nichols


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www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/science_technology/new - [Cached Version]
Published on: 12/25/2007 Last Visited: 12/25/2007
 
If a victim needs subliminal-thoughts implanted, all that is necessary is to capture, save on computer, and target the person's brainwave pattern to send them such low frequency subliminal-messages that they actually think it is their own thoughts [confirmed by Al Bielek and Preston Nichols with the Montauk Project in Long Island].
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"He (Preston Nichols) used his..radio equipment to learn that whenever a 410-420 MHz signal appeared on the air, the psychic's minds would be "jammed."Tracing the signal to Montauk Point and the red and white radar antenna on the Air Force Base.."

In Encounter in the Pleiades by Peter Moon and Preston Nichols, http://www.time-travel.com/skybooks/ Preston wrote that: ..............

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www.stealthskater.com/Tour.htm - [Cached Version]
Published on: 9/17/2007 Last Visited: 9/17/2007

16. the Montauk Project's Preston Nichols analyzes various types of UFOs
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www.anomalous-images.com/text/montauk.html - [Cached Version]
Published on: 4/12/2001 Last Visited: 6/17/2006

I've conducted a two year investigation into allegations made by scientist Alfred Bielek, Preston Nichols & Peter Moon (authors of the Montauk Project book series) and other people regarding ultra-top-secret experiments carried out by clandestine units of government intelligence and military agencies, corporations such as A.I.L., Siemens/ITT, as well as certain divisions of Brookhaven Labs and other groups from the 1950s up to present times.
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There are a number of claims being made about this location by people like Preston Nichols, a radio-electronics engineer and technician who's worked for Bookhaven National Laboratories and top-secret defence contactor A.I.L. on Long Island.

Nichols has co-authored three books on the subject of the activities at Montauk Air Force Station popularly known as the Montauk Project.
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Some of the most startling information now available regarding such highly classified research and experimentation in ultra- advanced physics, the resultant technologies, and the uses to which such were put can be found in the Montauk Project book series by Preston Nichols and Peter Moon, which provide extensive details on recent activities of the Phoenix Project.
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A number of researchers including Preston Nichols assert that the Phoenix Project technologies were developed and perfected to a high degree, to a large extent at facilities on Long Island such as Brookhaven National Labs.
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According to Nichols, an unquestionably brilliant radio- electronics engineer who worked often in the Montauk Project in an altered state of mind while simultaneously employed by Brookhaven National Labs (such alternate awareness can be achieved with variations of psychotronic technologies) -- and also according to other first-hand participants in certain of these experiments -- some of the youngsters abducted and so viciously abused in these activities died as a result and were buried en masse on site!
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Published on: 10/26/2007 Last Visited: 10/26/2007

Preston Nichols, was born in Long Island, New York, in 1946.He received degrees in Parapsychology, Psychology, and Electrical Engineering.After graduating, he went into Defense Electronics and wound up working at Brookhaven and AIL.In 1968, Preston's involvement with Montauk began.He got involved with the tail end of stealth research at AIL.Preston was told that the research started right after the Philadelphia Experiment.He actually read the final report of Project Rainbow - which we know as the Philadelphia Experiment.The report named the Cameron brothers as being the Navy liaison in the experiment.Next, he got pulled into the mind sciences project at Montauk.They were working on interfacing a person's mind to the computer.Preston worked with Al Bielek on the psychic aspects of the Montauk Chair and the Montauk Boys program.
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Preston trained the Montauk Boys to be ,"PSI Warriors,".
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www.iraap.org/reports/phoenix2.htm - [Cached Version]
Published on: 2/7/2008 Last Visited: 2/7/2008
 
Earlier this year Preston Nichols visited the Camp Hero location with a British film crew that was filming a documentary on the Montauk Project.As Nichols has previously been specifically warned by a judge that if found on the restricted portion of Camp Hero he will be jailed, Nichols waited for the film crew off to the side of the main entrance road in visual proximity to the new senior center, while the crew went to the then-demolished main entrance gate and beyond, into the restricted portion. (The senior center is just east of this entrance road, in a field at the western border of the neighborhood which used to be base housing immediately north of the inner perimeter [restricted portion] of Camp Hero/Montauk Air Force Station.This housing was later deeded over to the town of East Hampton in 1984 and the properties sold via lottery to supposedly lower income families).

Nichols noted that, as usual, there was no indication of any activity whatsoever at the senior center and no vehicles parked there.Imagine his surprise then, when the exterior cellar door of the building opened up and a man came out, walked over to the entrance road, and looked down the road towards the main gate where the film crew was, clearly attempting to figure out who they were and what they were doing.One would have to wonder how this fellow could have been at all aware that anyone was at the base's main entrance--as he was in the basement of the senior center which is several hundred feet from the entrance road and several hundred yards from the entrance gate; also questionable is why this person would even be the least bit interested in the presence of people at the base entrance, as he would supposedly have been an East Hampton Town employee.

Things became even stranger when this fellow realized Nichols was sitting at the side of the road watching the entire proceedings--he did a noticeable double take and retreated back into the basement of the "senior center"!Okay...
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I was informed by Nichols, who got the information from someone with connections to Brookhaven Labs, that BNL uses white and dark green Blazers for security and that's who was surveilling me at Camp Hero on June 24.
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I returned to the lighthouse parking lot where I teamed up with Preston Nichols and a fellow I will call "Mr.
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Mr. Coffee penetrated the restricted portion of Camp Hero while Nichols and I remained outside.
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Nichols had just finished observing that the puddle always seems to be there whether or not there had been recent rains, and felt that there could be some kind of entrance beneath the puddle.

Later that evening Nichols powered up some banks of signal receiving equipment he has installed in a bus, and gleaned the following information from the data generated by the equipment.The signals received indicated to Nichols that particle accelerators were in full operation at very high output, both offshore from Montauk Point (the subterranean facility extends out under the ocean) and at Camp Hero.Nichols then ascertained that the Delta-T antenna in the Camp Hero underground was emitting EM fields indicative of interdimensional/time travel operations.
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Preston Nichols had made a comment to me that while he had been working with the Air Force at Camp Hero on the Hale-Bopp operation, most of the moving around between different locations underground was done with golf carts.He further noted that there were extremely long corridors or tunnels going as far as Block Island offshore from Montauk Point to the east, and extending underground westward to East Hampton.

In agreement with this statement by Nichols, and also in agreement with information noted earlier in this report about the presence of unusual hydrants or standpipes and a triple phase power line in the Stony Hill area of East Hampton (known to have had bunkers and undergrounds dating to WW2), there is yet another area of the Town of East Hampton where there is a notable and rather illogical lack of real estate development.
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In the summer of 1998 Preston Nichols was contracted to do some scientific work for a private party in the Sierra Nevada Mountains east of Sacramento California.Nichols became aware that Beale Air Force Base, somewhat near his location, was emitting signature EM/RF frequencies indicative of "Delta T" interdimensional/time travel operations in progress.Furthermore Nichols also noted the presence of extensive and pervasive "435 Mhz" transmissions capable of implementing mind control, weather control and other relativistic, high-energy physics functions such as interdimensional/time travel operations.The transmission blanketed the entire central Sacramento Valley region--even beyond some of the lower mountains to the west.Only after several mountain ranges were passed did the signal finally begin to diminish.Nichols reported that he had never seen such a pervasive signal and believes that is somehow propagated upon the water molecules in the air, enabling it to "saturate" an area, especially a geographic basin area such as the Sacramento Valley, in a way unlike other EM/RF transmissions.Indications are that a ground based transmission is being deployed.Nichols speculated that there is some kind of link to HAARP operations going on, very likely but not exclusively to the weather control aspects of HAARP.
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I have been told by Preston Nichols, which was corroborated by other sources, that in fact large portions of Long Island have underground facilities, (including of course Brookhaven Labs--a point confirmed to Long Island reporter Jerry Cimisi by a private contractor who's worked often on the Brookhaven facility), AND that these are connected to many other such facilities nationwide (and worldwide) by an extensive and elaborate super-high-speed underground rail system.
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Nichols also told me that the Lower Hudson Valley region, where so many hundreds of thousands have had "UFO" sightings, contacts, and like experiences, has major underground installations--vast in fact.
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I ran Hannivig's ideas past Preston Nichols and I find myself in agreement with his general assessment of Hannivig's ideas: that is, although such a scenario is technically possible, there is way too much the overt government/"Establishment" and the covert government/New World Order would stand to lose--far to much of the country's and the world's industry, banking, commerce, wealth and power, as well as great numbers of military, governmental and scientific facilities are centralized or located along the Atlantic seaboard of the US for such a move to be seriously considered or enacted.
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Another connection to organized religion surfaced when Preston Nichols was working with Air Force agents in deprogramming a number of "Montauk Boys" at Sag Harbor, as noted in the section of this report on corroborative evidence.The Pallotine group, by means of various youth related services and facilities, has been tied to the procurement of children for use in the project.Preston Nichols called it a monastic order working with the secret government to help train an elite fighting group of children along the lines of Delta Forces.
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Coffee" and described in his account reprinted directly following this section, has been consistently commented on by certain researchers, including Preston Nichols.
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Preston Nichols has relayed information about some of the more esoteric technologies which utilize music as a medium for dissemination.He referred to what he calls a "quantum" waveform of some kind which is not in either the audio or electromagnetic wave spectrum, and which can transmit extensive amounts of information.This quantum information signal apparently interacts with certain levels of consciousness and awareness: there is no commonly available technology at this time with which the information can be decoded.

One point made by Nichols which I, as a musician, found intriguing is that the equipment used in implementing this quantum information wave is highly dependent upon vacuum tubes, as much of the Montauk Project technology has been in general, although transistors are utilized to some extent.Interesting that many electric musicians, especially guitarists, have adamantly withstood the tidal wave of solid state technology when it comes to instrument amplifiers: as many rock fans know, most electric guitarists, bassists, miked vocalists and other musicians swear by the vast superiority of the tonal qualities of vacuum tube amps and the ability of such equipment to convey a far greater range of subtle nuances of feeling that transistor amps.

Nichols indicated to me that a substantial amount of popular music during the 1960s, 70s, 80s and of course now has been utilized in service of a covert (of course!) MK agenda using various methods and technologies, and as I've pointed out, similar charges have been made by a number of other people, for example Cathy O'Brien. (Nichols worked as a sound recording engineer before going to work at Brookhaven Labs around 1970).

More detailed and technical information was conveyed to me about this entire matter but to be honest the technical part is a bit over my head.I am a bit weak in radio electronics as well as quantum physics, relativity and the unified field theory.

I have been extremely intrigued by the statements made by Nichols and others about music bein ..........


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 Fringe Knowledge For Beginners

There is some good material for the beginners on  http://www.montalk.net   to study some of the questions touched by our website, (though it has no visible connection to Montauk project);
The book "Fringe Knowledge For Beginners" you can download from this website and here is some extracts, p.93-96 :


"The abductors possess extremely sophisticated technology. As mentioned, aliens have the ability to freeze time, paralyze and levitate people through solid walls or windows and into their ships or just extract the soul from a person while the body stays in bed. Their ships can pull back into another dimension, fly quickly into outer space, change size and appear much larger on the inside than outside. Advanced military factions have portal technology that creates
a wormhole between their underground base and your bedroom through which to transport you. Their bases may be
saturated by an accelerated time field so that you can be there for eight hours while only two hours pass back home. They can even put an implant into your brain through which to program you remotely while you sleep.
This all sounds very fantastic, scary, and crazy, but there are enough people remembering their experiences and providing circumstantial clues to suggest that the above is very likely happening. While there is much more to abductions than covered here (like the fact that aliens are also abducting people to harvest genetic material from which to create a race of alien-human hybrids who will act as liaisons between humans and aliens), the important point to remember is that not all your thoughts and compulsions are necessarily your own.
Aliens can program their abductees to fall in love with each other, only to then turn one off and leave the other in anguish at the lack of reciprocation.* They can also program feelings of doom, thoughts of utter despair and pointlessness, or target someone when they are still toddlers and use programming spanning several years to contort a helper soul into becoming antisocial, morally twisted, and emotionally dysfunctional. The military groups tend to program into their targets militant attitudes of survival and competition, like creating an obsession with guns and
using violence to solve problems; some of these end up becoming school shooters or mad bombers you hear about in the news. Therefore it is very important to watch your thoughts and feelings and avoid giving unchecked expression to those impulses that are unnecessarily hostile, depressing, obsessive, or self-destructive (R.Monroe was very careful about the energy he was generated. He knew from Inspec friend (another , more evolved part of him) how devastating hostile energy could be, LM).
Signs of having been abducted include waking up suddenly with a panicked feeling that something evil is lurking in the room, waking up early in the morning feeling alert as though not having just been asleep, or waking up at your usual time but feeling extremely tired or sore in disproportion to what you did the day before. If you have pets, these can also be frazzled or hostile after having witnessed the abduction. Your mind might be exceedingly spacey or fuzzy during the day as a result of the intense programming that happened. You might have anomalous bruises, scratches, or scars
on your body that were not there the night before; some of those are due to implants being put in to track and monitor your position, vital signs, thoughts and feelings. Precursors to abduction include seeing visions of aliens when you close your eyes to go to sleep, seeing warning numbers or experiencing a ringing in your ears up to an hour or two before going to sleep, and having pets be unusually aggravated or responding to invisible things moving around the room.
Preventing abductions is not always possible, therefore doing damage control afterwards by nipping programmed thoughts in the bud is the first and foremost line of defense. But abductions can be cut down in their severity and occurrence through the following methods.
First, it is important to have humor and confidence, warding off fear and obsessive paranoia because the latter lower your soul vibrations and make it easier for other-dimensional aliens or the military teleportation technology to tune into and extract you for
an abduction.
Second, it is a well-known fact that most abductions happen when one is sleeping, and that people who can be snatched while awake (like when driving down a dark rural road) are those who are sufficiently weak in their soul strength and awareness. This shows that freewill, soul strength, and conscious awareness are powerful obstacles to abductions—staying awake on nights when precursors signal an impending abduction will stop them cold, but if that is
not possible then use a voice-activated tape recorder to catch any unusual physical activity during the night; by reviewing the tape in the morning and becoming aware of it, abductors have a more difficult time showing up without being caught. Several years ago during a period of frequent abductions I set up a motion-activated webcam to record myself sleeping—that night the power went out six times, each time rebooting the computer and stopping the recording.
The abductors were not happy that I did this, but the incident goes to show such a thing does interfere with their ability
to do as they please.
Third, before going to sleep you can intend strongly that you stay free of all negative interference through the night until time to get up. You can send an earnest request to positive forces, to your higher self, to protect you. And you can try boosting your soul frequency momentarily by thinking or remembering something that makes you feel good, then visualize your room or apartment surrounded by a solid spherical shield of glowing light. All of these help to anchor your intent and reinforce your choice against being abducted.
The level of technology used in abductions is so advanced that it must take into account metaphysical laws, not just physical ones. These laws basically say, “You can do whatever you want to your target except that which absolutely violates his or her freewill. So there are certain manipulations you will find impossible to carry out.” One such obstacle is killing the target directly; this is rarely
allowed unless the target is weak and willing enough (like if weakened in soul strength through prolonged drug abuse, having invited negative forces through occult rituals, thinking all aliens are good and asking to meet them, and so on). Because of these restrictions, abductors resort to “softer” and more permissible methods like mind programming, which over time can drive the abductee into destroying himself if he chooses to obey these irrational thoughts and compulsions. The fact that he has choice in that situation is what preserves freewill according to metaphysical law. So the more aware you become of what they are doing to you
(if you happen to be an abductee) and the stronger you set your intent to be free from abductions, the less they can abduct without violating your freewill.
                                                 
                                                 Dimensional Weather and Cyclical Influences

No doubt certain days seem better and calmer than others. Some days it seems like all hell is breaking loose and people have gone nuts. When numerous individuals in different locations undergo similar negative experiences at the same time, some bigger influence is at work than just getting up on the wrong side of the bed.
The strongest of these influences is the moon. According to folklore a werewolf transforms from a regular person into a ravenous beast on the full moon. The term lunatic comes from the old belief that lunar influences aggravate the mentally ill. These are pretty close to the truth; the new and full moons, and the two or three days before and after,
are days on which the potential for negativity are greatly heightened because the darkness within us is amplified and we become more easily aggravated, reactive, insulted, or depressed. Full moons bring out an extroverted darkness
that can push one into lashing out insensitively at others, whereas new moons exacerbate the introverted darkness that causes one to become oversensitive and easily offended or demoralized..."*


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 Montauk Time-Line Engineers

by Branton

from TheNexus Website


The following posts were sent by an individual who claims to be native to a "world-line" where the U.S.A. did not take part in World War II.

 

There are some Montauk project investigators such as Michael Ash who state that the Montauk Project had sent agents back in time to help Great Britain AND America win the war against Germany.

Whatever the case, read on and form your own conclusions.

The following source believes that HIS timeline is the original due to various inconsistencies that he has observed in our world, and that OURS is an engineered reality.

 

Alex Collier on the other hand states that the "Zenatae" people with whom he is in contact also confirmed that there is a German Empire timeline however that OUR timeline is the original, yet the Zenatae "Andromedans" ALSO state that THIS is essentially the second time around, i.e. that there was a timeline before THIS one was created [by the Montauk Project], the creation of this world-line having changed the 5th dimensional reality of the Zenatae's themselves.

The individual source of this information will be identified only as "ProfessorPhate":
 


Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:37:43 -0600 (CST)

Thank you for your gracious if overwhelming reply. I can only hope that I have the intellectual stamina to co-ordinate the expression of my thoughts as well as you have deployed yours. Because of other demands I will be obliged to respond to your e-mail in a piece-meal fashion, but eventually I will address, in however a circuitous route, as many of the topics as I can.

The paucity in my personal experience of different world-lines makes me incapable of attributing the primacy of origin or determination to one as opposed to another. Indeed, as I am increasingly coming to suspect, that may be ultimately a meaningless question. Although, by circumscribing one's set of references, a diligent observer could discern a genealogy. Any person who has transposed from their aboriginal world-line to an alternative can automatically, by virtue of their discrepant nature, evaluate the comparative stability or 'solidity' of the two. At least, this is my vouchsafed experience.

 

This natural talent or expertise is perhaps not germane to, and probably obfuscates, any attempt to ascertain a family-tree.

Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:25:58 -0600 (CST)

To continue.... Another aptitude that is acquired by a transposer is a psychic sensitivity which I call (and this is possibly a misnomer) chronopathy, i.e.: the ability to detect locales where there is a temporal discontinuity. This has a variety of formats. What might be indicated is a site of unusual temporal integrity or intensity in comparison to it's surroundings. Or a configuration that is peculiarly related to a counterpart on another time/world-line, and thus has a higher potential to facilitate a physical transfer between the two tracks.

 

There are doubtlessly other determinations which can be gleaned and a superintending gestalt that I do not yet understand. In my experience, an overcast day is the most conducive condition or prerequisite for reliable and repeated observations; but, on the other hand, the absence of sunlight, that is to say, the evening obliterates any sensitivity. On one or two occasions I have discovered in the full bore of unfiltered sunlight one of these outstanding sites or overlaps.

 

Whether this was due to a unique emanation or an unusual degree of discrimination on my part, or some other variable or combination of the aforementioned, I cannot say. This year I intend to begin a cartographical record of these areas. Lastly, alas, I must acknowledge that in my case I can only espy those emplacements that are synchronized (in whatever manner or quality) with my own world-line.

 

As to whether this reveals an intrusion of one domain upon the other, or a natural or artificial network of gateways... I do not know. Although I am prone to rampages of speculation, about this entire matter I am trying to be as circumspect as possible.

 

Soon.

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:59:10 -0600 (CST)

Deleting, for the sake of narrative simplicity, my own intricate and confusing story (that will have to be recounted later), let me expatiate upon my home world-line.

It is 25 years behind this time-line.

Perhaps the most glaring departure between the two is that the United States never participated in the Second World War. After the conquest of Metropolitan France by Germany (and Italy), the British Empire signed an armistice and subsequent peace-treaty with the Axis powers. A matter has occurred which unfortunately obliges me to curtail the account very prematurely. I will resume as soon as I can.

 

Thanks for your patience.



Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:20:09 -0600 (CST)

The provisions of the settlement were actually quite lenient. There was to be no occupation and the British army was promptly repatriated (there was no Dunkirk - the war party in the Parliament toppled when the B.E.F. was bagged in France). And in return for German 'guidance' in British foreign (and to a lesser degree, domestic) policy and the contribution of a modest expeditionary force (mainly naval) to the great anti-Bolshevik crusade, Hitler, to the extreme annoyance of the Italians, personally guaranteed the integrity of the British Empire (a point not lost on the Japanese either).

 

Although Hitler was very partial to Mussolini as an individual, the German military established a far more intimate relationship with the English than they ever desired to with their ostensible Italian allies. Nevertheless, the remnants of the war party, in the guise of a British-first movement, was able to survive, after a fashion, as the loyal Parliamentary opposition. Punctuated with violence, the socialist and labor coalition was suppressed, intimidated, co-opted, or bought-off. They remain to this day however the source of the English Resistance (by way of comparison, they are to the United Kingdom what the Basques are to contemporary Spain in this world-line).

 

WW II was much less damaging to Britain than was the case here. A number of nations, especially Australia and New Zealand, were more pro-Empire than even the English! South Africa became the 'fascist conscience' of Great Britain, while Canada became the haven for the disloyal (albeit ineffectual) opposition. India remained the jewel in the crown; but the sub-continent was a much more fractious place than it was in the pre-war period. This took longer than I anticipated. It's time for me to move along again.

 

More later....



Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 02:03:06 -0600 (CST)

Before I continue my historical background briefing tomorrow, let me quickly answer a few of your latest questions.

If you regard any of my information or conjectures meritorious enough, then by all means post whatever you wish.

On my world-line, during the war many thousands of Jews were surreptitiously ransomed by concerned parties in the Western Hemisphere.

 

Otherwise, they and others were gradually exhausted as slave-labor. It was the maw of inhuman economics that consumed their lives rather than occultic monomania.

From my 15 year research effort I have concluded that whereas the Germans may have lost the war on this world, the Nazis and their allies in the United States definitely won.

Although I learned in 1974 how to physically transfer myself back to my aboriginal world-line (an opportunity of which I fortunately did not avail myself), agents there 'grafted' my consciousness upon a duplicate in this world. A simply made remark that plasters over a great many stumbling blocks of detail.

I am in general agreement concerning your assertion that dreams can be a medium of insertion or transference.

 

But if I may use myself once again as a totally unrepresentative statistical sample, in my experience (which I have undergone only a few times), it is a 'trance' state even deeper than the usual oneiric condition that actually propels one into an authentic alternative world. One would realize that you have transposed if, in your dream, all of your senses, self-awareness, and perhaps most importantly critical reflectiveness are as active as they are when you are 'awake'.

 

Ordinarily, these faculties are non-existent, suppressed, or diminished in the dream-state.

 

In any case, when an 'immigrant' returns their consciousness to their home world-line they experience an ineffable re-synchronization or 'aptness' that throws into glaring relief how 'unreal' their other life has been.



Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:13:10 -0600 (CST)

As if attempting to subdue China wasn't a sufficient strain upon Japan's resources, beginning in May 1939 they found themselves in an ever expanding war with the Soviet Union. Being so preoccupied on the the mainland of Asia the Japanese Empire couldn't even seriously entertain a general offense against the United States or even the vestigial European colonial powers (particularly since they were now the clients of Germany).

With Britain and Japan thus removed as instigators, the interventionist cause collapsed in America. Even after the invasions of the Soviet Union the consensus of the citizenry was:

"It's far away... they might all kill each other off... what about us?"

A degree of artificial prosperity was generated by the expansion of the armed forces (less than undertaken by your country during WW II, but stupendous compared to the pre-war levels of either world-line) and more decisively by the elaboration of the armaments industry.

 

The dominant isolationist faction accepted the conversion of the United States into Fortress America, and the internationalists had to be content with arranging for the hemispheric defense.



Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:00:09 -0600 (CST)

It wasn't until approximately 1960 that the United States was able to surmount the pitfalls created by the Great Depression. We did not enjoy the unique and tremendous economic advantages that allowed the America of this world-line to so spectacularly flourish. There was little transfer of hard assets (principally undertaken by Great Britain in your time-line) to our coffers. There was no post-war worldwide captive market for our exports and investments.

 

And there was no returning throng of potential consumers prepared to re-vitalize the domestic economy. Consider the ramifications of that last absent phenomenon. We didn't have a baby-boom! There was no demographic displacement to the suburbs (of course there was some inevitable expansion in that direction)! On the other hand, we too have an interstate highway system-and one completed earlier than yours (facilitates troop-movements you know).

 

Our material quality of life would seem Spartan, somewhat shabby, and rather technologically unsophisticated to you (even allowing for the 25 year discrepancy in our 'temporal velocities'), but a preservationist would regard my U.S. of A. as a paradise.



Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:21:50 -0600 (CST)

I can quickly reply to two of your previous questions before I describe contemporary conditions on my world-line.

America participated in WW I as it did in your history. And I have no idea if JFK was assassinated or even if he entered politics. My knowledge of personalities is non-existent. I have a conjecture as to why that is the case, but I must cogitate upon it further before I will hazard a thesis.

Currently my world-line has dire expectations for it's future. Imagine your own world's cold-war at its most truculent-with the equivalent of a Cuban Missile Crisis occurring two of three times a year. Nerves are frazzled beneath the surface of denial. The final war is expected-if not tomorrow or even the day after, then someday and soon. At least in the United States, people eagerly (if not desperately) lose themselves in the intricacies of ordinary life.

Let me set the international scene.

After the conquest of European Russia, the gruesome colonization of their frontier - the Ostmark, the giddiness of recasting the architectural face of Greater Germany, the self-indulgence abetted by plunder and triumph, and the glorification of the fatherland not experienced since 1871, the Third Reich is obviously the pre-eminent, if not pre-dominant, world power.

 

And although the technocrats believe the future for Germany is in continuing it's monopoly of space exploration and colonization, the latest generation of occultic ideologues are on the verge of successfully promoting a renewal of war in order to acquire the sacred Aryan homeland of Central Asia.

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:25:53 -0600 (CST)

To continue and I hope complete my most generalized recounting of the international situation on my world-line....

India has become a running sore for Great Britain. Very little of the Indian Army would be available for overseas deployment and that otherwise large military assets is just about the only enticement for the British to remain. Everyone expects them to abandon the sub-continent soon and let (greater) India return to it's pre-conquest Balkanized condition. Canada is independent in all but name; and, of course, a somewhat dismembered France (at the connivance of the Germans) is attempting with considerable success to incite the secessionist sentiments of Quebec. Justifiably, the Empire has become increasing paranoid about Japan.

The 'new Roman Empire' of Italy has settled (or sunk) into quiescence.

Of all the former Axis powers, Japan suffered the greatest losses, expenditure of capital, and realized the least from its victory. The Japanese fought the Soviet Union the longest and with the least success. The spoils of Siberia have not been extracted as thoroughly as they might because of the under-capitalized Japanese economic infrastructure. Although as an outlet for the excess population from the home islands, the 'Northern Frontier Zone' has provided one of the few untarnished consequences of victory.

 

China has been subdued but in it's subjection has become a tremendous burden for Japan to control. Perhaps in reaction to a less than satisfactory (especially compared to Germany) post-war recovery and as development of pre-war sociological trends, the Japanese have become even more hysterical in their racial chauvinism than even the Nazis!

 

The ruling class has immersed itself in a nihilistic spiritual creed. Think of a North Korea in command of the manpower and potential wealth of the Far East and you will have an image of the condition that obtains in contemporary Japan. It is widely assumed that the British Empire in the Pacific will be their first target, followed by the Americans.

One more installment should do it.

with best regards,

ProfessorPhate.

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:14:13 -0600 (CST)

America is a garrison state, it has ruthlessly, if not always nakedly, enforced it's hegemony of the Western Hemisphere. The chronic and occasionally acute demands of national security have provoked restiveness in a potion of the public, but for many Americans this is the first era of relative affluence they have enjoyed since the fabled 1920's and so they're willing to overlook the fact that the United States is a cryptofascist country.

Along this world-line Roswell evidently never happened and thus Col. Corso (or his counterpart) didn't insinuate retro-engineered alien technology into our commercial infrastructure. The subsequent social revolution that this world-line underwent never occurred on my home-world. Although the sophistication of our computers is many technical generations behind yours, my America is our world's leader in the development of 'electronic calculators'.

A frantic Great Britain has at last succeeded in prying the United States loose from it's official foreign policy of autarkic isolationism (of course we regard South America and the rest of North America as our economic and political preserve-and there has been for 50 years a tight, if unacknowledged, collusion between the plutocracies of Germany and the U.S.A.).

 

There is a de-facto alliance between the British Empire and America to repel the impending Japanese onslaught.

Germany is expected to opportunistically revive it's drive to the east bringing it on a collision course with the Empire of Nippon. However oblique the motives and goals of the 'allies' may be they have the power to defeat Japan. But defeat isn't enough. Japan is sufficiently strong to be a vortex capable of dragging everyone else down. And on my world-line there will be no hesitation about depleting the super-weapons in every combatant's arsenal.

I have now at last finished conveying the highlights of my home-world's modern history and contemporary situation. I apologize for any pedantry, but without providing some background my own story is incomprehensible.

as always, with best regards,

 

ProfessorPhate

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:53:31 -0600 (CST)

If one must identify a single divergency-tangent (a descriptive model that I am increasingly coming to regard as a distorting over-simplification) between our world-lines, it would be the Japanese reaction to the humiliating defeat inflicted upon them by the Soviet Union in the battle of Khalkin-Gol or the Nomohan Incident that concluded on the 31st of August 1939.

I just don't know if there was a Montauk Project or even a Philadelphia Experiment on my world-line. It is obvious to me however that some party or parties in that United States has the power to implant my psyche into this world-line and to communicate with me as required. I was dispatched on a mission and I can only presume, let me reiterate, presume that I wasn't sent here alone.

 

I'm just the tip of a very long tail.

Perhaps my remarks concerning the issue of the primacy and derivativeness of world-lines was elliptical, too off-handed, or so embedded textually as to be understandably overlooked. I never intended to imply that I regarded my home-world as the original; in fact, I have come to consider the question of which time/world-line was the first as a meaningless one. However, for reasons previously mentioned, I have ascertained that this world-line, compared to my own (the only basis of comparison I have) is profoundly far-fetched and volatile.

Insofar as I can determine, if one must ascribe a single initial divergence (another practice about which I have become highly dubious) it would be the success in your history of the Dee-Kelly Enochian Workings (1582-87).

This instability has been subsequently reinforced by the passing of the Dark Satellite (1881), the Montauk Project (insert your own dates), the detonation of a teratological bomb by the U.S. (1993), and God knows what else. As for being a multiversal cross-roads.... whatever this world-line was originally, it sure is one now.

If I can keep up, more latter and best regards,

ProfessorPhate

 
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:36:18 -0600 (CST)

We certainly have our nuclear arsenals (and the United States possesses a 'Maginot Line' of particle beam towers-which I suspect is what has principally deterred Germany from attacking America).

I am unaware of a Bermuda Triangle or its counterparts on my world.

This is an expression of my ignorance - nothing else is implied.

Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:25:43 -0600 (CST)

The question of doubles is a vexing one. Although I am very inclined to answer no, I feel that if I did so an important qualification or aspect would be swept under the rug. I'm sorry that I don't have a facile reply, but this is another mystery about my situation which perplexes me.

No PBS or cable, but our commercial networks are more numerous. The broadcasting emphasis is upon local and national 'niche-programming' much as it was in the early 50's on this world-line. In content, it's never moved too far away from it's foundation in radio. A rut I guess, however we never had to wait for the latest programming fad to recede either. By the way, the movie studios received an anti-trust exemption (it was in the 'national interest' to have that propaganda mill undisturbed) and so the movie industry never underwent the wrenching restructuring that here it suffered through for 30 years.

Insofar as I can ascertain, our industrial style and the pace of alteration is extremely modest or conservative compared to flurry of change and temporary domination of a given fashion that we experience. On my world-line, the American civilian economy, although robust, just doesn't have the elasticity and self-indulgent abundance that is so staggering on your world.

sincerely,

 

ProfessorPhate

Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:35:01 -0600 (CST)

Our most advanced American cars are lower, wider and more curvaceous than those with which we are familiar. The new Beetle is very reminiscent of our automobile designs. We didn't have to endure fins, compact cars, or... ahh... Japanese imports.

In apparel, societal strictures have prevented the flood of informality that has inundated the costuming here. The uniforms of subcultures (Goth, gangsters, etc.) that have proliferated in this America are, insofar as they exist at all, marginal and when they surface regarded with suspicion by the mainstream culture.

 

What we know as 'casual dress' is about as casual as it gets.

ProfessorPhate

Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:04:45 -0600 (CST)

I have previously alluded to the fact that on my world-line there is a substantial collaboration between the American plutocracy and the technocratic faction of the German ruling-class. I am, of course, not privy to the intimate particulars of this arrangement.

Ironically, it was probably this alliance that forestalled fatal conflict between the Third Reich and the United States.

 

So your intuition Alan is quite correct.

Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:42:40 -0600 (CST)

To reiterate: the most valuable resource 'possessed' by this planet, the one which attracts in ever increasing numbers visitors from throughout the multiverse, is its metaphysical and empirical eccentricity.

The strain of improbability, indigenous to all world-lines, is unusually and significantly pronounced in this one. Activities can be undertaken here that are prohibitively difficult on the operator's home-world, Discoveries, inventions, experiments, etc., which, if possible at all, would require exorbitant time and labor to even attempt on another-more staid-world can be performed on this planet, at this time, with comparative ease.

 

Unfortunately, every such act (and indeed the insertion of the 'alien' perpetrator himself) increases the instability of this world-line. Improbabilities compound themselves until, if you will, the speculative bull market crashes. I would be surprised if there weren't numerous native-born humans who aren't exploiting this condition as well.

 

Whatever else obtains that would contribute to the explanation of this planet's current condition, this is the situation as I understand (and have been given to understand) it to be.

ProfessorPhate
 
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:00:56 -0500 (CDT)

Regrettably [****], I am unable to answer the vast majority of your questions, and the rest only in a generality. For example, organized religion in my America still has an elaborate and intimate community or neighborhood presence generally throughout the country.

Remember, the Sixties never happened on my world; and the social alterations which happened so precipitously and irresistibly here have proceeded, shall we say, more sedately or diffidently from where I come. But as to the details of how our scriptures differ from yours... I have no idea. I presume - or take for granted - that until the divergency in 1939 the minutiae of daily life were identical on both worlds.

This is my problem (well, one of them): something more substantial than my consciousness but (I presume-once again, as usual) something less encompassing than my soul was 'transferred' involuntarily from my aboriginal world to this one. This happened when I was six years old (on both worlds). I first became aware of my 'dislocation' when I was eight years of age (on this world-line of course). How much does a six year old remember about anything? How much can anyone forty-six years later reliably remember of one's infancy? And how much survived the 'abolition' I underwent?

 

Besides, I am now a fully integrated personality. The only direct knowledge I have of my home-world has been gleaned from those few occasions when my astral body has been retrieved by my 'superiors' in order to reinforce my conditioning (it isn't my intention to convey the impression that this is a sinister procedure - the grief engendered by ontological nostalgia is more than sufficiently persuasive in cementing one's attention). The historical information that I have imparted devolves from a 'briefing' that those responsible for my condition and mission 'super-imposed' upon me (again, as reinforcement). So my knowledge is maddeningly general and abstract on the one hand, and overly particular but severely constrained on the other.

 

So, although I will try to be as forthcoming as possible, I hope you will appreciate my limitations.

with the very best of regards,

ProfessorPhate

[Note: the following post was in response to claims made by Alex Collier that the Germans created a time/space rift in 1931 as a result of time-travel experimentation, allowing the "Greys" to enter our reality from the future (of an "earlier" time/world) and begin to engage in temporal manipulation along this world-line  - Alan]

Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:35:56 -0500 (CDT)

Okay, I'm not quite sure if I am most directly addressing Alan or Alex, but in any case....

When I first read this post I a priori dismissed the possibility raised within. However upon reflection, my initial reaction was prejudiced and hasty.

If the Germans are experimenting with time machines upon my world-line (and I have no indication that they are, but there is also no reason for me to be privy to such machinations - I couldn't resist the pun), I imagine that the means of acquiring temporal technology was as follows.

Presuming that the Germans (whoever that might really be - for example, instead of the Nazi's equivalent of the Manhattan Project, it could be the undertaking of an isolated faction) are aware of this world-line and can also insert their agents into it, at some junction along the post-1931 timeline of this earth, they contact those Germans engaged in chrononautical research.

 

Because, as I have previously posted, your world-line is much more susceptible to paranormal exploitation the possibility of succeeding in such experiments is significantly greater and easier. After learning all they can, these hypothetical agents are then extracted and returned to my home-line... and the mischief begins anew. Elements of this scenario could be altered for it to be equally plausible, but this version seems to be the most sensible to me.

However, let me reiterate, I know of no evidence to justify it's supposition. Quite frankly, although I must begrudgingly intellectually concede the possibility described in your post, emotionally I don't want to have anything to do with it.

 

But that's a bad reflection upon me, not you.

ProfessorPhate

Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:57:32 -0500 (CDT)

Dear Alan and et al,

Regrettably, my specific knowledge of my home-line depends upon a collage of childhood memories, casual re-observation, 'attuned' inferences, and the statements of my superiors.

I am unable, therefore, to reply directly to your inquiry; but obliquely I can say this: it is my impression/understanding that most other world-lines, are above all else, concerned with maintaining their own stability, their own hum-drum persistence and progression, if you will.

This world-line  (and others like it) is regarded as a fascinating, useful, and horrible example of what happens when temporal/ontological manipulation escalates.

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:37:06 -0500 (CDT)

Since the discussion of parallel worlds, including most of the concepts and terminology associated with this topic, originated in the popular culture of science-fiction and comic books, I thought I should bring this to your attention.

The role-playing company TSR for its game Alternity has published a supplement entitled Tangents. It is a source book which describes in considerable detail their theory of alternate worlds and the technology used to travel from one world-line to another. Of course, most of the material is only pertinent to and phrased in terms of the game system; nevertheless, some of you might find the conjectures contained therein to be stimulating and useful.
ProfessorPhate

Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:42:32 -0500 (CDT)

Dear Alan, friends, and lurkers,

My apologies for the tardiness of my reply to the question you posed on the 18th of last month, but I have been recovering from a nasty spot of pneumonia.

My 'overseers', as you have felicitously characterized them, treat me as a more or less involuntary agent, and thus, I can only make informed inferences about their nature and purpose. I have been told that the American government will be the beneficiary of the information that I accrue upon this world.

 

From this I surmise that they are, to some degree at least, working for the government in some intelligence gathering and/or military capacity. Their purview seems to be circumscribed to these areas of interest and whatever I (and others sent from my original world-line) glean will be dedicated to the impending war effort [against the Germanic 'empire' which threatens the 'other' world-line ? - Alan].

 

They may have the know-how to be a 'quantum police force', but insofar as I can tell, they have no motivation or inclination to behave as such.


ProfessorPhate
 

(Note: the following are more recent posts from ProfessorPhate, to the members of a 'time travel email list' years ago)
 

Subject: ProfessorPhate

From:
Date: Mon Jul 31, 2000 11:39am
Subject: Re: Inquiries was Re: Al Bielek video

To all that this may concern,

I haven't, until about five minutes ago, taken the time to read the messages posted on this forum for the last two days. I believe that Joni is, with gracious reticence, referring to me as the one who has asserted that I am a transplant from an alternate Earth. It was not my intention (rather my inattention) to artificially create suspense concerning when or if I would reveal my identity.

 

If Mr. Hamilton and the others who have expressed interest in my story (for which, honesty in advertising compels me to admit I have not an iota of evidence) would consult the archives of this list (perhaps the list-master could be of assistance) many of their inquiries should be addressed; if not, I think (cross your fingers) I have my primary statement on file and could arrange to reproduce it here for general edification (or entertainment, as the case may be).

 

There is not much more that I currently have to add to the aforementioned archived report except to say, that based upon a certain series of disclosures which have been tendered to me in the last year, I am becoming persuaded that this Earth may have more exiles, agents, or what-have-you from alternative Earths walking around than I have hitherto believed.

 

If I can be of any assistance in providing further elucidation about my own situation or this topic in general I am at your disposal.

best regards,


ProfessorPhate
 

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Dear Mr. Hamilton, et al,

As I read your recent message I couldn't remember posting such interesting material, and then it occurred to me that perhaps you are alluding to Mr. Walton's (and may he soon rejoin us) remarks which became entangled with my own; this is understandable since my supplementary elaborations appeared in a dialogue with the estimable Mr. Walton. Nevertheless, although we will have to await his exposition of the 'Time War' and the 5th dimension, I can address your other inquiries.

Once again, I shall try to clarify a misunderstanding which hitherto I have never been able to correct: to the best of my knowledge I never claimed that my Earth was the prototype - indeed, I recall declaiming (perhaps a mite too dismissively or at least testily) that such a search is impossible and pointless. However... I did assert that from my perspective this Earth is an artificially or unnaturally deviated counterpart in comparison to, if you will, the set of 'natural' permutations.

 

I, of course, can reasonably be accused of special-pleading but that is the situation as understand it to be.

Chronologically, my Earth is about a quarter of century behind this one; technologically, with a number of exceptions, perhaps forty years behind yours - well, ours - and in its culture generally between forty and fifty. If you have found it, the particulars are dealt with in my 'position paper'.

Although I am hesitant to employ terminology gleaned from pop-culture, simply because the allegorical correspondences begin to break down rather quickly and it becomes, in any case, a narrow and inhibiting framework for discussion (loved the movie though! - and Dark City is a must see!!), let me just baldly state that as a principle I regard the astral domain as 'The Matrix' (although with no imputation of malevolent Neo-Gnostic deception and oppressiveness) and in its fundamental function the equivalent of the state vector of quantum physics.

 

And from this (he said in his best imitation of Orson Welles as The Shadow) many portentous consequences follow.

 

Well, I hope some of this helps.

best regards,


ProfessorPhate
 

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(Woman complained about his lingo)

Superfluous, Judith... never, convoluted... so a number of my friends say. Okay, at the risk of stepping into the same bear-trap that I kept telling myself to avoid....

Let me try this: the astral domain is The Matrix, the archetypal program that can be re-programmed to project any given simulation of reality into the minds of its percipients. My earth, our earth, an earth where Mickey Mouse rules the world, and all the other conceivable and inconceivable, possible and impossible earths are specific concrete variations of this astral software.

 

Now left to itself this entire process proceeds according to natural metaphysical laws, or so metaphysicians and theologians reassure us.

 

But the human, inhuman, and non-human will can, according to the same sources, intervene and alter the code. This can amount to a violation of, a temporary suspension of, or if he or she or it is really good, the reconstitution of 'natural physical laws'. When this happens it's called magic, divine intervention, Montauk, and a thousand and one other things (depending on the originating agent(s) or agency); or as a contemporary scientist might say (and as the relatively - in these circles - conservative physicist Evan H. Walker did say) - here comes the jargon - highly sustained willpower results in the collapse of the state vector on the macroscopic scale at an extremely improbable level.

 

Now, if you have one or more parties in command of the psychological technology (in want of a better phrase), on this world or any other, necessary to so re-order the reality of any given group of sentients you don't have so much, as Mr. Walton says, Time-Wars, as Reality Wars. That, in a nutshell-perhaps one with a very thick covering and a very small nut - is why we are experiencing the real Battlefield Earth.

 

Okay, any better?

best regards,
ProfessorPhate
 

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Dear Maverick,

Because you were the first to submit a daunting list of questions to I shall address this response to you, although of course all who have expressed interest in my statements are being kept in mind (and yes Judith I do speak like this, sometimes to the consternation of my friends-I guess I am a hopeless captive of a 19th century literary temperament).

 

I see that Starfire Tor also has some coordinated inquiries, and if I may ask for his indulgence, I will try to answer his at the soonest available opportunity. My place of business is starting to move this week, wonderfully coinciding with a quarter of the staff leaving for vacation so I am suddenly having to cover the shifts of a number of other workers and so I'm afraid my stamina is being a bit over-taxed. So my apologies to all if my replies are even less satisfactory than usual.

A prefatory note: I'm afraid that drove Mr. Walton to a state of disappointment and exasperation (if not aggravation) when I attempted to answer his questions. Regretfully, and no one feels this more keenly than I do, any elucidation of mine is severely constrained by the amount of information that I can bring to bear on the questions mustered by the list members. Irrespective of whether or not my assertions are judged to be self-delusional (if not indicative of a psychotic fugue), a hoax, a egomaniacal campaign to stimulate attention, or what-have-you, my storehouse of 'facts' or 'information' is almost devoid of goods; and I cannot confabulate anything beyond that limitation.

 

I will try to, as thoroughly as I can, answer any questions but the data you seek just may not be available to me (this is why I contacted Mr. Walton in the first place and joined this list, i.e., in the hope that in the recounting of someone else's story I might find something to illuminate the very dark corners of my own). So if my responses seem to be unresponsive, vague, abstract, mere generalities, I can only express my regret for having falsely inflating your expectations and then wasting your time.

I infer from the context of my experience that my 'superiors' (and I place the italic marks around that word to indicate my ironic and very ambivalent attitude towards them) are a quasi-government group in my home-world America. By this I mean they are, as best as I can judge, either a deep black-ops agency deliberately lost in the bureaucratic paperwork, or an independent association with intimate one-way (them-to-it) ties to the government. It is my impression that the latter is closer to the truth.

Our communication is entirely initiated from their end. On those rare occasions when it has occurred the medium of transmission has been my dream-state. Now, I don't have to be psychic to predict what may now be the reaction of the more skeptical among you. Believe me, if I was in your position my head would be shaking as well and what follows would be classified as "Case Closed".

 

But, in order to preserve the integrity of my experience and the feasibility of my claims let me, at this time, hope that this clarification is sufficient to offset the understandable qualms one or more of you may be having about the bother of reading further. When I have these 'episodes' the panoply of my senses are engaged (very much unlike the ordinary dream-state, at least mine) and indeed, at a pitch of lucidity and vivacity greater than my waking-state. This condition is exclusively extant during these times.

 

It is as if, and this is how I interpret it or choose to interpret it, I am returning to the psycho-physical matrix to which I was aboriginally attuned and to which I am briefly re-integrated. It's a peculiar form of a heightened state of consciousness. Without further flailing about in, what must shortly become for all of you, a tedious attempt to describe this singular state, let me just conclude by saying that it's nature is such as to throw it into contrast with every other state of consciousness that I ordinarily experience.

 

So, unless I am dealing with an eccentric neurological disorder-a possibility which I must acknowledge even if I vehemently reject it-the phenomenal validity is vouchsafed for me because of the aforementioned comparisons which I can tabulate. Well, as Judith, my stylistic conscience, might point out I am becoming garrulous-and here I haven't even finished answering your second question!

 

I beseech your patience and I will resume soon.

best regards,


ProfessorPhate
 

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To resume,

It would be helpful if I replied to your questions Maverick in the order given... ahh, literacy-what a concept-I've got to try it some time. I jumped from inquiry number one to three. I will try to be more attentive in the future.

Most specifically, my sponsors (if you will) want me to discover what methods have been developed on this fraternal earth (if I may expropriate C.D. Hoit's most felicitous characterization - kudos!) to biologically enhance the human body/mind to suprahuman levels. Or to render it another way, to deliberately punctuate Stephen Gould's 'evolutionary equilibrium'. If Marverick you have been able to download my historical overview I think you would join me in concluding that they wish to apply whatever I have gleaned to improving the military capabilities of their America.

 

Frankly, I don't begrudge them this at all more soon, and I won't be reading any more posts on this list until I answer your questions, otherwise I will be spinning off on so many digressions that I'll never get back. And then on to Starfire Tor. If you and he have taken the time and effort to solicit my responses (however inadequate and unsatisfying they may be), the least I can do is to stay focused on one compendium at a time.

 

Oh, and best regards,


ProfessorPhate
 

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Dear Maverick and all,

At the risk of, as usual, leaving myself hanging from an expostulary thread, let me slip in a few remarks before I go to work.

The contact in my sleep might be more exactly described as an extraction. I believe (and their might be a more accurate explanation of this phenomenon but this is the one which makes the most sense to me) that a very deeply embedded hypnotic program is stimulated by my superiors on these occasions which enables them to 'pull out' the self than originated on my fraternal earth, realign its frequency of being so that it conforms to the resonance of their reality, and then communicate whatever it is they wish to impart; presumably the process is then reversed and my aboriginal self is then 'reinserted' or allowed to flow back into the host-my dopple-ganger on this world.

 

That is why I am sympathetic towards and prejudiced in favor of at least some of Al Bielek's assertions (Mr. Hamilton's disquietude about his account not withstanding), especially those concerning the 'soul-grafting' (my phrase not his, and probably a poor one) which he and others have had performed upon them. Well, I'm up against the unyielding clock and I'm off for the day. I wish, oh do I dearly wish, I could be more exact and detailed in my rendition Maverick but this is about the best I can do.

 

Maybe when I take on your further questions I can give a more satisfactory reply.

best regards


ProfessorPhate
 

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Good morning Maverick and whomever else is still slogging through this with me,

To provisionally conclude my response to your question about the "communication pathway", let me hasten to add that my reversions to my home-world are hardly frequent or periodic. In my entire life I have only been returned three times, although on the first occasion, the episode was protracted over several weeks. However, I have (again, technically in a dream state) subconsciously projected my self into, or been supinely attracted by the 'gravitational pull' of, or whatever, my fraternal planet.

 

The second time I was withdrawn by my superiors I was admonished that such a spontaneous, involuntary, or surreptitious 'snapping-back' was very reckless and hazardous (to me, to the mission, to them, to the space-time equilibrium-I don't know, as usual, I was told as little as necessary) and not to do it again-for whatever reason I haven't.

This might be the right place to interpolate the sequence of the procedure whereby I 'arrived' on the world. On my fraternal earth I was an adult (and no, I don't remember any personal details-when I have made an unauthorized return I seem to be incessantly touring my home city - a rough analogue to the one I live in here - I think in an attempt to 'touch-base' with something tangible, familiar, in the hope of recovering some personal information from that period of my life), that personality was distilled and regressed to the age of six (this is about to become even more bizarre, inconsistent, and demented sounding but this is what they told me).

 

I was then projected into, or grafted upon (insert your own preferred designation) the being of my dopple-ganger, who was approximately the same age (I can 'verify' this because I acutely recall the exact instant-literally-when I realized, at the age of eight, that I wasn't from this world and that something was very askew'; I don't know if the epiphany coincided with the introduction of my base or previous personality or if that fact had taken that long to percolate to the top of, ahh..., my consciousness.

 

Then I was informed that when I obtained the information they sought I would be extracted, rejoined with my six year old self (although with the intellectual maturity of a ten year old, I suppose due to the subconscious presence of the life-time experiences of two adults) allowed to naturally age to about the age of fourteen and then debriefed and my 'package' retrieved. Sounds stupid, doesn't it. And as for all those loose ends... I have absolutely no idea what happens to them or how to reconcile the multiple paradoxes. I am equally ignorant concerning the instrumental details of how all this is done, or why it is, or has to be, done that way.

 

As I have said before, I am the very tip of a very long tail, so my perspective isn't the most panoramic.

best regards,


ProfessorPhate
 

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Dear Maverick, and all whose further inquiries and comments I hope to address in order of appearance before the expiration of the decade,

Apropos your recommendation of the term 'aberrant'. As I've indicated, upon reading C.D.Hoit's characterization ('fraternal world'), I have adopted his usage in lieu of the one you proposed. Nevertheless, your own coinage is an especially apt description of this earth's categorical status, and if I might, without sowing terminological confusion, I would like to reserve for potential application the adjective 'aberrant' for worlds (I hope few in number) that can be so classified.

Apparently, I am indeed asserting that these aberrant worlds (in your sense) are inhabited by soul-filled entities, just as the 'real' (?) world does. Of course, although I have had recourse to this designation myself, it's presence in this conversation makes me uncomfortable, simply because so many sects, denominations, philosophers, and spiritual traditions have so many differing definitions of this ontological component - the existence of which is for so many people, in any case, hypothetical at best. But the barn door was imprudently opened by me, so....

When you asked: "What is the interface that allows for the detection of and the connection to targeted souls to fuze?", I am moved to clarify the entire context of this issue.

 

All of the material dealt with by me in that post concerns a secret society on this world. The last time I was 'summoned home' I had a very anomalous encounter with my superiors. On this unique occasion, the discussion had nothing to do with my standing mission. I was shown a film, accompanied by a briefing (the sources of the content of that post), and told to garner as much additional information as rapidly as possible. I inferred that another agent or agents furnished them initially with what data they possessed because the topic was a surprise to me.

 

I surmised that they were very disturbed by the scope and activities of this fraternity because of its potential to destabilize the existential adamancy of their own world. Perhaps they also are trepidatious about the competitive prowess of this group. I threw out what they knew in the hope that someone could fill in a blank there, add a detail here, etc. Nothing came of it; and to me it was just another job, and a digressive one at that. But I must acknowledge, in my judgment, their acute concern is justified.

"Are your 'superiors' using souls, in the aberrant world, to restructure the matrix in the aberrant world... the real world?"

I'm sorry but I cannot begin to answer that question. I doubt if any conjecture on my part, which you weren't soliciting anyway, would be much more insightful than your own.

more soon and with best regards,


ProfessorPhate
 

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Hello list members,

"Please identify and expand. Only through specifics can we share a useful communication." (Maverick was so pushy he repeated this throughout his entire grilling of Prof. he was so specific he got kicked off dragonslayers. N)

 

And if they were to be had they would be yours. The only meager addition, a clarification actually, is that this secret society has franchises, if I can be excused the flippancy, at the time of the original post, on four fraternal worlds, including this earth where it apparently originated. I would presume, given what information I did receive (imparted to me with unusual thoroughness), that in the interim they have considerably expanded.

 

This briefing was the last, or latest, contact I have had with my home-world. As the perspicacious have noticed, there is a very messy issue of differing temporal flow-rates, so if my assumption is factually correct, my sponsors may have an altogether different perspective. I can only reiterate that, at the time ( :-) ) it was sudden and very apprehensive development.

Well Maverick, in the absence of an autobiography, that's the rest of the story insofar as your (initial?) list of questions is concerned. Perhaps contained therein something of value or interest was gleaned by you and the others. All complaints are to be directed to parties unknown on a world far far away.

I will now return to the message board and reply, in rotation, to any further inquiries submitted by the list members. Thank you all for your courteous interest and I hope I didn't find my way into too many kill-files.

best regards


ProfessorPhate
 

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Well Starfire, they have never used the Internet to communicate with me, probably because the Internet, PC's, and even WebTV have not, I suppose, even been imagined on my home-world. No Roswell, no Corso, no transistors... nifty death-ray citadels though. But if you will read the last chapter of "The Electric Connection - Its Effects on Mind and Body" by Michael Shallis I think you will discover some germane, albeit disquieting, observations on the topic of what can use the Internet to initiate communication.

I trust that I have been able to elaborate upon, if not satisfactorily answer, a number of your subsequent questions. As to whether or not I believe that "...magick and the occult sciences play a real role in the working of the matrix", I most emphatically do, especially here!

To the best of my knowledge (and this only refers to the research that I have conducted) only the works of John Bennett (sp?) bear some relevance to the issue of the historical origins of this secret society; I am reasonably confident in asserting that the Freemasons, Illuminati, etc. are not involved.

 

Their objectives (as claimed by themselves or by their detractors) and methodologies don't seem to be pertinent.

best regards,


ProfessorPhate
 

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Dear Maverick,

Just let take a moment to reassure you that I am not a member of the Bielek claque. Unlike Mr. Hamilton, or perhaps yourself, I do not have the competence (nor frankly, the inclination) to examine the veracity of his claims. His personal account, nor even his rendition of the P.E./Montauk Affair (sounds like an old Man From U.N.C.L.E. episode) has any intrinsic bearing upon my own experiences.

 

To paraphrase what you said, just because one can usefully segregate discrete elements from the accounts of the Montauk Three (or is it Four now?) doesn't compel one to endorse the remainder. If posterity confirms his version of events, then good for him; if not, then I trust he realized he couldn't take it with him.

 

Certain aspects of his story resonate with me but it is those similarities and not necessarily the man himself which arouses my attention

best regards,


ProfessorPhate
 

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Dear Maverick,

My apologies for the tardiness of my replies, and I am afraid they will continue, for a while, to be sporadic; because of the relocation of my workplace I have recently been pulling down sometimes triple shifts and when I return home even turning on the Internet seems to be an unbearable chore.

In your message of 8/4/10:57 A.M., you postulated that there may have been episodes which I can no longer consciously retrieve. Insofar as the unilateral initiatives of my superiors are concerned, I don't think so, the ambience of the event is much to singular for me to forget one. However, it is possible, although I have tried to monitor these experiences as assiduously as I can, that I have forgotten one or more of my 'unauthorized' returns.

 

It also seems to me that the pseudo-physical process of retracting me to my home-world is the only method available to those responsible, at least there has been no indication of any other means hitherto employed. And yet... I must admit that it would be reasonable to infer that they have some way to keep themselves apprised of my situation.

"Do you have a preference of worlds?"

To most baldly put it: at least subconsciously, the compulsion to return is the leitmotiv of my life; a fact about which I am both rueful and considerably ambivalent.

Alas, I must shortly leave for work and I am unable to continue. I hope, upon my return this evening, I will be able to resume and reply at greater length.

best regards,


ProfessorPhate
 

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Dear Maverick,

In your letter of 8/4/10:57 A.M. you asked for a clarification of my relationship with those I have dubbed 'superiors' and if I am implying a more specific subordination. Because they were responsible for my situation, imprinted and reinforced my motivation, and claim to possess the means of restoring a facsimile of my aboriginal life, I have deemed them my superiors or sponsors. Nothing else is (knowingly) intended. In schematic terms, it may not be the most fitting but it seems subjectively the most apt designation.

I really don't remember a single detail about my adult life on my home-world; and I truly cannot imagine that any aspect of any of my vocations has the slightest concordance (other than the sheerly coincidental and trivial) with any professional attainment upon my fraternal earth. I do however believe that my vocational interests have been substantially influenced by my subconscious 're-education'.

You have asked me to untangle some of the sequential conundrums. When I was an adult on my home-world that state of being was regressed to the person that I was (on the fraternal earth) at the age of six. This 'composite' was then alloyed with my counterpart on this world; this had to have been done before my epiphany at the age of eight (now whether this was done one second or n-years beforehand, I can't say). It is my impression that I no longer subsist as an adult on my home-world - indeed, if one could in synchronization observe both worlds at this moment I don't know what (if any) tangible presence I would have on my original earth.

You are correct in your recapitulation of the sequence of temporal and biological relationships which I was told that would eventuate upon my restoration. Apparently, the "plan to retrieve and terminate the mission...." has not yet reached the phase of implementation.

I must concede that I am not unsympathetic to the reasonableness of situating my experience within the psychological model of abuse but it is not entirely satisfactory to me, after all, for example, a soldiers relationship to his superior officer can be justly so described but you must acknowledge there is an extenuating context that undermines the literal accuracy of such a characterization. Nevertheless, your words bear reflection on my part.

Let me address the remaining portions of you thoughtful e-mail in the near future.

best regards,


ProfessorPhate
 

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Dear Starfire Tor,

I am in-between business trips and as I was trying to swim against the tide of reading my messages before the heat death of the universe occurs I encountered yours. And to you as well I hope you will excuse my laggardness in replying.

The reason why I wanted to draw your attention to "The Electric Connection" by Michael Shallis was because in the last chapter he applies Rudolf Steiner's concept of the Ahrimanic principle to the nature of cybernetics.

 

He asserts that whereas raw electricity is the substantial body of Ahriman (a necessary but adversarial Spirit insofar as the evolution of the human species is concerned) the computer (and by implication, I suppose, our entire electro-mechanical infrastructure) is it's functional body.

 

As you might imagine he does not draw warm and fuzzy inferences from this supposition. Our computer network is demonically possessed (to imitate a headline writer for The World Weekly News). So, if your local library has a copy of this book, a perusal of the last chapter (although the entire book is worth one's attention) might lead you to some interesting conjectures about what forces or agencies can inhabit the Internet, other than the evils of spammers and trolls of course.

I will respond to the other questions of your letter of the 8th as soon as I can.

best regards.


ProfessorPhate
 

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From: "Bruce Walton"
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:13:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Digest Number 192

Hello Professor;

Whereas the possibility of the dissolution of this universe/timeline is involved, I suspect that it will not happen, because of the following fact. Our souls/consciousness are like grains which gather a "pearl" of third density reality around it. So if one wants to destroy our reality/timeline then they will have to destroy our souls, because I believe that CONSCIOUSNESS is the building block of the various levels of the Omniverse.

 

The Montauk Project proved just how much CONSCIOUSNESS comes into play.

 

In other words, if our world is a VIRTUAL REALITY matrix, then our collective souls would be the computer MAINFRAME that programs the virtual reality matrix. I don't know if you have ever played the computer game DOOM, but if you are killed in the game all you have to do is to start the game over, because the monsters in that game cannot destroy the mainframe itself. I hope that you are able to grasp where I am coming from.

Any responses to this idea that, as the Hindus say, we live in the "world of illusion", and that there is a greater consciousness/reality beyond, would be welcome.

Sincerely;


BRuce AlaN walTON
(BRANTON)

P.S. Just how does the communication between yourself and those on your aboriginal timeline occur?
 

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ProfessorPhate@webtv.net wrote:


Dear Bruce, Nicky, et al,

A few weeks ago, I received a new communication from my 'contacts' (a woman and two men) on my aboriginal world/time-line. I wish to take this occasion to impart-for what it is worth-the following information.

I have, in those posts that the redoubtable Nicky recovered and consolidated several months ago, written of the alleged 'artificiality' or 'unnaturalness' of this world/time-line. I have also commented upon the fecund susceptibility of this cosmos to existential erosion which manifests itself in, and is stimulated in turn by, literal paranormal phenomena. And how the resulting ontological contradictions or incompatibilities will eventually result in the dissolution of this world/time-line. A perusal of the relevant digests will amplify upon and detail my remarks.

 

Let me direct your attention to those archives.

My handlers told me that what Vernor Vinge and others refer to as the Singularity will trigger the aforementioned event. A bit of background before you all bring up your search engine of choice. In the early 90's, the science fiction writer, Vernor expropriated a term from astrophysics and applied it to an impending and inexorable event. According to his - and others - calculations, in the year 2035 (although, in the opinion of the woman in the group, the year 2025) the ever accelerating climb of the plotted curve of knowledge and technological implementation of those discoveries will become vertically ascendent.

 

That point when the curve becomes perpendicular Vinge called the Singularity. At that juncture, the pace of change in innovation will become so rapid and unassimilatible that the world as we knew it becomes unknowable and unpredictable. Although, believe it or not, there are groups, such as the transhumanists and the extopians, who salivate over this liberation from the fetters of history, I'm afraid the sociological implications are very dire.

As any number of academic specialists in the asundry fields of personal and collective psychology can tell you, when an individual or group is under the pressure of the stress of unsuccessfully trying to adjust to a barrage of unanticipated changes, they tend to have a nervous breakdown. My liaisons believe we, on this world/time-line, will be witnessing and/or experiencing a catastrophic psycho-demographic collapse which will powerfully intensify the aforementioned attrition of our existential stability.

 

Now, let me hasten to clarify, they aren't asserting that one second after midnight on Jan. 1, 2035 (or whenever) the universe disappears in a puff of smoke-and then the smoke disappears. It is one of those a-journey-of-a-thousand-miles-begins-with-a-single-step sort of things. When the Singularity occurs, the final irrevocable countdown starts. How long it take to reach zero is ours to guess. There is a further sub-text to this phenomenon which I need to address latter.

 

I just thought that someone might want a heads-up.

sincerely,


ProfessorPhate

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